a South African who used to live in china

I am not sure the collapse of CCP will be peaceful tho

its fucking massive ofc it wont

wouldnt be surprised if theres warlord factions

well... not warlord

but ye

their power is only as strong as the brainwashing

Wouldn’t tons of economies take hits if China just collapsed

Once people are disillusioned, it's a ticking timebomb

I'm afraid the Triads will pacify any "revolution".

ye and more and more people are disillusioned

cos they are managing to see the outside world

either by visiting it or managing to get access to it via vpn etc

@Big Krunkus Only if they invested too much into outsourcing. To which is say, you made your fucking bed, lay in it retarded boomer.

the social credit system is so fascist

its disgusting

Outsourcing was a retarded strategy, you tried to sit on two chairs, now your ass is splitting

@Uksio, yeah, but why us, their children (and grandchildren) might also suffer for this?

You can make local production, you don't need to suffer

If a niche is empty, you get rich by filling it

Don't let the good opportunity go to waste by crying over an injustice instead of acting

...that's not what I was asking about, but OK, nevermind.

Movement of goods is the real wealth

Keep it up where it is disrupted and you will get rewarded

@Big Krunkus Yes but it's a price i'm willing to pay.

The western addiction to cheaply manufactured goods is comparable to a heroin addict. It needs to stop because the harm it does far outweighs the harm of stopping cold turkey.

@Big Krunkus If the Brexiteers could choose to leave the EU even in the face of taking financial hits, than so can the western world, leaving trade deals with China (who is by any standard EVEN WORSE than the EU)

Withdrawal will hurt. But it is worth it

I'm not sure china is worse than the EU, it's a different evil, but not necessarily a worse one

Everything in time

Right now it's china

We need to undo the scam that is belt and road too somehow

China has no right to buy ports and roads abroad. That's expansion and conquest.

That's an act of war for all I care

Regarding the Uygurs... It would've been one thing if China just cracked down on their cultural practices.

After all, a society has to maintain the right to decide which cultural practices are permitted or not.

So if all they did was like, say, ban the construction of Mosques and the sale and distribution of Quran's it would've been one thing.

But the Chinese are going way overboard. Blackbagging people in the middle of the night and shipping them off to actual concentration camps to be tortured until they're minds are shattered enough to embrace communism, as well as Chinese soldiers raping Uygur women being sent to the camps and Han Chinese men being instructed to live with the Uygur women and forcibly procreate with them.

A smidge too far...

I find it particularly funny that china is now selling the "humanitarian aid" boxes of masks and sanitiser

And chinese nationals spit into those boxes too

As if they haven't damged their reputaion enough already

@Hommedaction It's definitely worse, because for most of the EU's policies they're not out to actively hurt other economies, like the Chinese are.

Let's ignore the med the last 15 years shall we??

EU is a cunt, but EU is not a fascist soviet nightmare that is CCP

China is def worse than the EU