Message from @Cody

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2018-11-08 08:10:05 UTC  

I had this debate already, first IQ is meaningless, and even if it wasnt, it's most different across race because of cultural and geopolitical bases

2018-11-08 08:10:10 UTC  

Not genetic

2018-11-08 08:10:39 UTC  

@Cody have you any study or proof to back up your claim?

2018-11-08 08:11:03 UTC  

Sure it could seem that genetics plays a part, but no certain proof exists

2018-11-08 08:11:23 UTC  

No one can point to a gene and be like, "oh it's that one"

2018-11-08 08:11:25 UTC  

so you have no proof at all to back up your claim?

2018-11-08 08:11:40 UTC  

IQ is potential iirc, right? So it's like, if you have high IQ and are badly educated, you're probably still not gonna do as well as average IQ at private school

2018-11-08 08:12:06 UTC  

Here's the study proving that IQ is one of the most heritable psychological traits – that is, individual differences in IQ are strongly associated with individual differences in genes (at least in fairly typical modern environments).

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/510003569324195840/CurrDirGeneticsTraits.pdf

2018-11-08 08:12:36 UTC  

Could it be social due to the parents' role in early life development?

2018-11-08 08:12:43 UTC  

Or does the study account for that?

2018-11-08 08:13:13 UTC  

And, it's shown that heritability of IQ only increases as you grow older

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/510003850951000064/ad93d88b0158d449881e56749d5443b3ff80.pdf

2018-11-08 08:13:22 UTC  

@Vigil but you can learn and teach things yourself and get things others don't.

2018-11-08 08:13:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/510003909146968090/IMG_20181108_134321.jpg

2018-11-08 08:13:41 UTC  

According to that study, it's not only genetic, it's also environmental

2018-11-08 08:14:12 UTC  

Yeah, yeah, the nurture vs. Nature argument that social constructionists love so much....

2018-11-08 08:14:13 UTC  

And I've shown that environmental factors account less as you grow older, Codes

2018-11-08 08:14:36 UTC  

I've always believed that it was a bit of both.

2018-11-08 08:14:56 UTC  

I suggest reading Robert Plomin's Blueprint. He exgensively shows data about how much genetics affects literally aspect of everyone

2018-11-08 08:15:13 UTC  

Real spooky, your exactly correct

2018-11-08 08:15:24 UTC  

From Eye colour, height, weight, to mental ability, school performance, and even depression

2018-11-08 08:15:27 UTC  

Dont let these idiots tell you otherwise

2018-11-08 08:15:44 UTC  

Codes, I've presented two studies proving my points

2018-11-08 08:15:55 UTC  

Do you have anything?

2018-11-08 08:16:07 UTC  

Because if its mostly genetics it means that a ton of people are lost and we can't do anything for them or about that.

2018-11-08 08:16:15 UTC  

i gave him like 10 studies yesterday

2018-11-08 08:16:21 UTC  

here we fucking go again :_D

2018-11-08 08:16:41 UTC  

Jasse, I cant take you seriously

2018-11-08 08:16:45 UTC  

and then he got absolutely rekt by krist😂

2018-11-08 08:16:55 UTC  

IQ is genetic, aswell as envoirmentel. and probably half a dozen other reasons.

2018-11-08 08:16:55 UTC  

Krist didnt do anything?

2018-11-08 08:17:02 UTC  

@Stefan Payne I like this line from Blueprint, "Genetics predicts what is, not what could be"

2018-11-08 08:17:14 UTC  

See even kris admits it

2018-11-08 08:17:17 UTC  

@Cody you dont need to take me seriously.
just read studies.

2018-11-08 08:17:23 UTC  

You can have a low IQ, but you can work hard and become successful

2018-11-08 08:17:40 UTC  

Problem with jasse is that he was saying that all blacks are stupid becuase they are black

2018-11-08 08:17:54 UTC  

He was also being antisemitic too

2018-11-08 08:18:03 UTC  

```You can have a low IQ, but you can work hard and become successful```
Only if you don't fall under a certain point. And that is somewhere between 85-90 or so.

2018-11-08 08:18:05 UTC  

So like I cant take him seriously

2018-11-08 08:18:06 UTC  

Codes, I don't support basically any of jasse's opinions, and I'm not alt right. However, IQ is very real, and one of the greatest achievements of psychology

2018-11-08 08:18:25 UTC  

There are alot of reasons for success, IQ conscientious and luck is also one.

2018-11-08 08:18:27 UTC  

@Cody thats stawman.
cant even quete me on that.
i said repeatedly bellcurve but you dont seem to care