Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-11-10 23:43:15 UTC  

My sister thinks I'm a Democrat bc I was a Bernie supporter 😂 😭 she lives in flordia and just texted me that Andrew gillum should have won blah blah... dios mío...

2018-11-10 23:45:32 UTC  

I think the real moral of the story is, don't let people know you own guns and they can't take them away.

2018-11-10 23:48:28 UTC  

10thacat, i guess they're not making guns ilegal then.

2018-11-10 23:50:47 UTC  

the collary to the old "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" is that "the evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence" (how black holes and dark matter got theorized). It blows my mind that people cannot or will not apply that very same principle to anything else such as figuring why the vote system is so corrupt in florida

2018-11-10 23:53:38 UTC  

I'm all for accountability. I want accurate results of elections even if I don't like those results. We need faith in elections.

2018-11-10 23:54:21 UTC  

I don't trust computer only

2018-11-10 23:54:37 UTC  

just because we cannot see something directly does not mean that we cannot track it's effects on variables that we can see after all

2018-11-10 23:54:59 UTC  

If one or both sides completely loses faith in the integrity of the elections and then loses hard. There *will* be a civil war.

2018-11-10 23:55:07 UTC  

That's a fact.

2018-11-10 23:55:08 UTC  

yet they call everyone trying to do so a conspiricy theorist and shut them down

2018-11-10 23:55:20 UTC  

anywhere using electronic voting i would never trust.

2018-11-10 23:55:20 UTC  

There are few things sacred in the US. Elections are one of them.

2018-11-10 23:55:37 UTC  

Agreed

2018-11-10 23:55:41 UTC  

Violate that faith, and the government becomes illegitimate. This is true on the left and the right.

2018-11-10 23:55:53 UTC  

its very easy to rig electronic voting machines for your favor. even with block chain if you rig it at the voting point you're still fucked.

2018-11-10 23:56:06 UTC  

The arguments to go to war will be different on the left and the right, but I have no doubt they would become very serious very fast.

2018-11-10 23:56:15 UTC  

physical ballots appear to be the only reliable method we've come up with.

2018-11-10 23:56:23 UTC  

it also opens the door to the party's echo chamber being taken completely out of control and turning on itself like communists do all the time

2018-11-10 23:56:30 UTC  

Physical ballots with chain of custody

2018-11-10 23:56:40 UTC  

the fringe then get to control the majority within the same party

2018-11-10 23:56:43 UTC  

Spicy soup broth splashed into my eye...

2018-11-10 23:56:49 UTC  

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2018-11-10 23:56:50 UTC  

Agreed, though we have some of that already. In Florida nonetheless.

2018-11-10 23:56:51 UTC  

until the physical ballots get destroyed

2018-11-10 23:56:52 UTC  

well yeah, i mean with physical ballots we've already figured out how to make it secure.

2018-11-10 23:57:00 UTC  

the only REAL way is verbal ballots

2018-11-10 23:57:09 UTC  

even then its still somewhat flawed, but we've got it much mroe reliable.

2018-11-10 23:57:28 UTC  

I am intrigued by computers that print paper ballots. The results of the paper count should match the computer result. The paper permits hunsn eyes to validate.

2018-11-10 23:57:29 UTC  

so even if it works to hurt the republicans, it also strips the democrats of their own voice because then everything is suspect and it's possible they get a candidate that even they didn't want

2018-11-10 23:58:10 UTC  

yeah, machines which also print results i'm okay on.

2018-11-10 23:58:19 UTC  

Depends by who you mean "they didn't want"

2018-11-10 23:58:23 UTC  

but at the same time, i'd rather they count the physical ballots not the elctornic ones

2018-11-10 23:58:44 UTC  

Did I understand the florida situation right. The counting process it not supervised by representatives of all parties on the ballot?

2018-11-10 23:58:47 UTC  

don't want them just squeezing past for rigged victories and no-one contesting it to check with the printed ballots.

2018-11-10 23:58:47 UTC  

I assure you Wasserman Schultz will be quite happy if D's, specifically her D's, win everyting.

2018-11-10 23:58:55 UTC  

@pratel a fringe or even 3rd party can abuse a broken corrupt system to force a candidate that even within the party was hated

2018-11-10 23:58:59 UTC  

The electronic would be a check

2018-11-10 23:59:27 UTC  

oh

2018-11-10 23:59:31 UTC  

@pratel then all it takes is anyone in the world looking to exploit that and they get to pick the candidate and not the voters