Message from @Undead Mockingbird
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it depends on the industry, i would say
you definitely have a hire risk in medicine or construction
All did average or better at some of world's largest software companies, on systems that several millions of dollars depended on.
higher* risk
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If they have a track record of having done what I hire them to do before, that is good enough for me.
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After a few years, nobody cares about your degree anyway, unless it's some licensing issue.
of course but how will they get that track record if they just learn the stuff out of high school
after a certain amount of years, i agree that experience trumps the degree
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Like everybody else: by starting small.
but the degree helps you get in the door
I'm actually much more hesitant about the reverse: to put some noob on an important project straight out of college. I take someone with experience over degree any time.
the degree is a fashion of transferring the training cost from corporations to the potential employee
Well you're both right here
yes, i agree with you UM
Having a degree is one way to get experience, but it has become progressively worse.
A person who has gone to college cam actually prove his worth, and has experience other experienced people
@Undead Mockingbird i say it depends on the industry
But a person can get even better on his own
You do not want to hire anyone on their degree. The best people I have ever hired were self-taught.
Personally, degrees mean a lot here still
I am speaking with personal experience from software engineering and friends from electrical engineering and IT are saying the same.
that's definitely possible but as a corporation, you're looking at either hiring a noob, investing 3-4 years in basic fundamentals and then they can walk. whereas with a degree, the company skips those 3-4 years in training
In the end, the big companies and important projects put you through a one or two day hiring process anyway.
A lot of everything you learn, you have to learn on your own
And that's after a phone screening and having verified your work history.
The teachers simply give you a question bank
And every week tell us to finish a module
After you've had one or two jobs, nobody cares about your degree anymore.
but you have no work history if you're straight out of high school and spend your time learning the subject on your own
For most people, your educational history becomes a one line item on your resume.
again, i agree but i don't think we're arguing the same point
Well, if you have nothing to show for yourself, of course that's a tough sell.
But that is true with or without degree.
i disagree
i think the degree is a definite plus over not having degree