Message from @Beemann

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2018-11-19 21:15:53 UTC  
2018-11-19 21:16:08 UTC  

surprising

2018-11-19 21:16:09 UTC  

Ly

2018-11-19 21:16:32 UTC  

aka sunk cost fallacy

2018-11-19 21:16:39 UTC  

You can't convince them, you can only mock and ignore them.

2018-11-19 21:16:52 UTC  

that is what I do

2018-11-19 21:16:55 UTC  

You can convince them. There have been converts

2018-11-19 21:17:08 UTC  

In my experience most white people who buy into the idea of white privilege as some huge insurmountable hurdle for minorities are those who are incredibly privileged themselves and don't want to admit it's because of their parent's success

2018-11-19 21:17:15 UTC  

the deeper invested they are in this sjw BS, the more they need to believe it to justify their proir support of the BS

2018-11-19 21:17:24 UTC  

You basically have to either A: punch through via experiments in empathy or B: reverse the steps

2018-11-19 21:18:02 UTC  

And probably most importantly is be a friend

2018-11-19 21:18:09 UTC  

they have to be willing to discard all the emotional/personal investment they have in their beliefs instead of giving in to the sunk cost fallacy

2018-11-19 21:18:19 UTC  

Seems like the only thing that reliably converts SJWs is being attacked and punished for accidental wrongthink.

2018-11-19 21:18:21 UTC  

Yup, you need to be their lifeline outside of the bubble

2018-11-19 21:18:40 UTC  

I don't like when the losing side just clings to their pitiful argument

2018-11-19 21:18:44 UTC  

Just why

2018-11-19 21:18:46 UTC  

No, you just need to frame it differently

2018-11-19 21:19:48 UTC  

They need to not look at it as "all of this work I put in was wrong", they need to look at it as " these parts of my philosophy and current self are worthwhile but these other parts will fuck people over"

2018-11-19 21:20:26 UTC  

They are incapable of self reflection unless forced to

2018-11-19 21:20:41 UTC  

Untrue

2018-11-19 21:20:55 UTC  

They just self reflect along a particular axis

2018-11-19 21:21:04 UTC  

when they view their beliefs as being part of their very existance, and any threats to it are a threat to themselves on top of that is when they start doing stuff like jonestown and heaven's gate

2018-11-19 21:21:22 UTC  

That's why you don't make your ideology who you are

2018-11-19 21:21:46 UTC  

Beliefs and ideology can change with time

2018-11-19 21:21:51 UTC  

that is what the british are doing with the saying 'british culture is multiculturalism'

2018-11-19 21:22:03 UTC  

it's just multiCULTISM

2018-11-19 21:23:15 UTC  

I know a vegan

2018-11-19 21:23:22 UTC  

But she is just a vegan

2018-11-19 21:23:39 UTC  

A person that happened to be a vegan

2018-11-19 21:23:41 UTC  

Yeah, I've never really understood the whole identity thing. Like I'm just me, and I can't tell you what that means; you'll have to get to know me

2018-11-19 21:24:14 UTC  

I hate the vegans that say that "I AM A VEGAN THAT IS WHAT I AM"

2018-11-19 21:24:20 UTC  

Normal vegans are ok

2018-11-19 21:24:25 UTC  

I never understood them

2018-11-19 21:24:34 UTC  

But they are ok

2018-11-19 21:25:09 UTC  

It's really weird how 10 years ago teenagers and young adults were all "do not label me I am more than a label" and now it seems like you need to make a list of labels to prove yourself

2018-11-19 21:25:13 UTC  

tribalistic virtue signallers are intolerable assholes all around though

2018-11-19 21:25:38 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-19 21:25:39 UTC  

doesn't matter what it is

2018-11-19 21:25:54 UTC  
2018-11-19 21:26:01 UTC  

But also sad

2018-11-19 21:26:22 UTC  

Lots of people also afraid of the word "normal"