That is something Naruto somewhat keeps..and half loses even at the end.

I'm talking about deku from MHA btw

not naruto

ya, me too

Like...even after the series went to shit..Naruto still did some real creative shit at the end.

and Deku..

is really really cool as tactics wise

but I hate the whole "You can't ever use your arms else they will be damaged foreverz"

I -hate- that Trope in Shonen

huh?

It was dumb in Naruto, it was Dumb in One Piece

that's not what was said though

It is dumb in MHA

he can use his arms, he just can't trash his arms a bunch more times

I thought the Deku arc of realizing that he needs to find a different way to use his power was somewhat interesting. It showed that the power really is too much for him, and if he ever gained full control over it, he'd be literally as strong as All Might, but that's why he can't use it at full power, his body simply isn't able to cope. The post-tournament of having screwed up his hands by overusing it acting as a grounding for him, directly leading to him meeting All Might's mentor and then changing his entire idea of how he uses his powers, acted as a good transition.

That way he didn't just "oh, I can use my power now, haha.", instead it showed that he really had been using it kind of stupidly and he needed to evolve as a character. While also giving him a HUGE power upgrade personally, while at the same time continuing to keep this feel of "You're only using like 5% of what you got. Better keep at it, kid."

I don't think he screwed up at all. Dr Manhattan's power necessarily makes him a political pawn, and by extension those he cared about would also become pawns. Add to that his growing distance from humanity just due to lack of basic commonality and it all makes perfect sense

If they KEEP breaking his limbs over and over now that he's gotten his new upgrade... then yeah, it's just shitty writing and screw them for ignoring all of his progress.

I haven't seen beyond the hero killer arc

But as long as they have him stop doing that and move the plot forward from there, it was well done.

1000000%

that's a major hiccup a lot of these shows fail at doing. When the hero learns some new thing, then completely forgets it or stops using their new tactic or whatever, just because "Well we wanted to have him do the old thing again for DRAMA"

ya, don't go 1000000%...

arms will be fine.

If he actually learned and got better, then those earlier injuries to himself MEANT something.
If he learned nothing... then the show officially took a turn straight down the shitter.

... That's not to say he can't... say in a dangerous situation, when he's in over his head and things are balls to the wall at their worst, he can't break his vow and go to All Might power for a desperation move... but only if they use it in like... the ultimate final battle. Once. not constantly like they'd been doing up to that point.

Eh I just think they could have done all of that..by having them focus on the fact his destroying his arms meant he wasn't able to help Bakugo more and not just the whole "Well you have 3 more big smashes in the tank."

like, him putting himself out of the action was cool, I just feel the "Oh you got 3 more hits for the rest of the series" is meh.

eh... you're either talking about something I haven't seen, or we've interpreted it differently.

Are you caught up through season 3?

I've only seen through the hero killer arc

aah

okay

you haven't seen it all then, nvm

aw shit... you mean he goes on and starts breaking his arms again?

I solved this problem by reading seinen instead of watching shonen

JustTom - He does it for a REALLY GOOD reason

the entire point of the leadup to the Hero Killer fight was that he was trying to learn how to battle WITHOUT DOING THAT.

like "if I don't fuck my arms up, a child will Die because I am way the fuck out of my League with this guy" Reasons.

yeah, but as I just said above: stop fucking playing that card or it's lame and makes it all worthless. That's the kind of card that you keep until the epic final battle of the series after he's had the whole "I gotta learn how to fight without breaking my arms" arc.

then you play it once and BAM, Real Impact.

if he just finished learning how to not break his arms, then next season he goes in and breaks his arms again anyhow, then... fucking what was the point

to save a kid...