I have a lot of respect for how they managed to settle their differences for a little while to kick ISIS out

The Kurds?

Everyone really

well the Iraqi ones

are pretty much westernized

Kind of

like..they are more modern than Saudi Arabia

To what I said, I'm not saying "kind of" to what you said

well, it applies too

I actually know very little about the Kurds

they aren't like..super duper modern..but they are better than SA.

the Iraqi ones (there are different groups of Kurds..the Middle east is real fucked fyi) like..enjoy fast food and shit.

Tim: "I oppose any system that wants to impose rules on other people without their consent."

Tim, a system of rules that can't impose rules without an individual's consent is almost worthless, especially as a state.

All someone has to do is not consent to the law to render it meaningless to them.

the real heros are the kurds in the middle east memeing isis when they can be easily kidnapped and beheaded

The Middle East is like the one racist uncle or cousin that still comes to thanksgiving but everyone kind of ignores. You're still going to let them come but you have no idea how to make it better

Annexation?

Won't help

We tried that with Iraq.

New ruler, same problems

it ended with us a billion dollars poorer

Even though they cut off clits, kill people who don't agree with them, and whatever. They don't drink alcohol unlike the hedonist west

Nah, that was poorly run occupation, with no actions or goals towards annexation.

I can tell you part of the problem comes from the split in Islam, Sunni and Shia (there's other groups too but those are the primary ones)

most of it was western colonization js

Also, I think we wasted way more than a billion dollars.

with all the random borders drawn up by Britain and the US

After ww1 we split up what was left of the Ottoman Empire and didn't pay attention to who lived where

Well, the biggest problem is that Islam never really went through a reformation like Christianity did..

buut

Yeah, the Ottoman/Persian conflicts were the fault of Britain and the US.

And the Ottoman annexation of Mamlukean Egypt.

that was caused by us carving up the region like a turkey and putting it in the hands of brutal assholes who never really..gave Islamic people a chance to get their shit together

cause they were always busy dealing with the brutal assholes in charge.

the biggest problem is we here in the west give too much of a fuck and just need to leave them and their oil alone

Except the Ottoman's really only controlled the whole region because they already had a monopoly. Like once you get everything it's kind of easy, but now that it's in a dozen pieces, there's no way any of them are going to control the test

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Can someone fucking shoot me. I just got a school survey link and found this gem

"I identify as an attack helicopter."

"Your experiences with bullying and female"

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