Message from @paradigm

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2018-11-24 03:19:19 UTC  

I suppose you would need a list of active operatives - so you know who to ignore
that would be a great list to have

2018-11-24 03:20:50 UTC  

We have a number of "whitelists" that we go by. Including a rather extensive whitelist for this platform and youtube as well. Tim is most certainly "whitelisted" otherwise I wouldn't even be here.

2018-11-24 03:21:06 UTC  

Tim seems legit

2018-11-24 03:21:30 UTC  

he's a genuine, normal person

2018-11-24 03:22:08 UTC  

There are a large number of people who are smeared by legacy media as "far-right reactionaries" and "agents of online radicalization" that neither my company, nor it's clients, think of in any way similarly.

2018-11-24 03:22:44 UTC  

Tim is great. I've followed Tim since 2011.

2018-11-24 03:22:50 UTC  

Occupy.

2018-11-24 03:23:13 UTC  

that was quite a show

2018-11-24 03:23:20 UTC  

Shitshow, maybe.

2018-11-24 03:24:06 UTC  

it did not seem to me that occupy had any genuine plan beyond protest

2018-11-24 03:24:23 UTC  

They didn't.

2018-11-24 03:24:24 UTC  

Occupy had a solid target to start with but got undermined by idpol

2018-11-24 03:24:28 UTC  

but I was also not very informed, so I could have missed the grand scheme

2018-11-24 03:24:41 UTC  

No plan could be formed because focus went to progstack

2018-11-24 03:24:49 UTC  

it never sounded like anything I could support

2018-11-24 03:25:05 UTC  
2018-11-24 03:25:16 UTC  

They didn't even have BASIC logistics set up in almost every location. Certainly the 6 different Occupy camps I checked out were more of a public health risk than a public safety risk.

2018-11-24 03:25:26 UTC  

"guys seriously stop writing anti-semitic things on the teleprompter"

2018-11-24 03:26:31 UTC  

I was also really (personally and subjectively) angry about Occupy's mistreatment and co-option of the Homeless community.

2018-11-24 03:27:28 UTC  

THAT made me sick to my stomach for weeks.

2018-11-24 03:27:36 UTC  

the homeless work cheap

2018-11-24 03:27:54 UTC  

and they are more than willing to create a media spectacle when needed

2018-11-24 03:28:04 UTC  

"we have crazy people who will do shit"

2018-11-24 03:28:26 UTC  

it's like Bum Fights, but for politics

2018-11-24 03:28:43 UTC  

There is nothing more I despise than "politicised truth." I work in the realm of facts and fact-patterns and I don't have any use for "truth" much less "politicised truth."

2018-11-24 03:29:39 UTC  

I work in the realm of algorithms and protocols. And I think the First Amendment needs a protocol.

2018-11-24 03:29:43 UTC  

Op facts >_>

2018-11-24 03:30:03 UTC  

whenever there is expensive gun i want

2018-11-24 03:30:10 UTC  

i feel poor and underaged

2018-11-24 03:30:37 UTC  

People don't really understand how the 1st Amendment actually works in law and where the rubber meets the road. For instance, "Freedom of Speech" has neer applied on personally owned private property.

2018-11-24 03:31:04 UTC  

Indeed. But protocols do not require some third party platform.

2018-11-24 03:31:47 UTC  

what if u like

2018-11-24 03:31:52 UTC  

had a video camera on ur gun

2018-11-24 03:31:54 UTC  

That's what makes this whole online censorship debate so difficult. Is it a public forum? Or is it Private PRoperty? It can't be both.

2018-11-24 03:32:10 UTC  

Additionally, we were in very good shape to implement a protocol that more or less guaranteed uncensorable speech by 2001 - certainly by 2005. Instead, we poured billions into private platforms, and now we have a censorship problem.

2018-11-24 03:32:37 UTC  

<:anders6JeAoi:484408066750808064>

2018-11-24 03:33:15 UTC  

@paradigm I remember all of that. Saw where the direction was heading back then too. Is anyone here old enough to remember the 1995 "Cryptographer's Manifesto"?

2018-11-24 03:33:29 UTC  

Yes.

2018-11-24 03:34:21 UTC  

That document spelled it out rather clearly. Loquaciously, but clearly, nonetheless. Sometimes sound-bites are not the way to communicate critical information. It takes "War and Peace" to spell it out accurately.

2018-11-24 03:34:21 UTC  

1991 PGP (now ietf standard)
2001 BitTorrent (public domain)
2005 peer to peer ruled US traffic

you can guess what the obvious solution is