if its physical they should leave,

Shouting depends on what falls under it, insults/demeaning/threatening = big nope, gtfo
just passionate loud voice is still acceptable imo

Not as much.

If a man is financially dependent on a woman, we do not call him a victim. We call him a loser.

then i dont think its a toxic relationship

As much as she would leave him

OMFG, stop your fucking simping.

It's cringe inducing.

I can't take it anymore.

Get your fucking balls out of your single mother's welfare purchased purse.

She makes her own money

I want you to pick up the phone, call your mom, and demand your balls back.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/692/309/094.jpg

but hey, what do you know about me I guess everything

Jesus you think its that simple.

Yes, it is that simple.

Like really.....

There are about a hundred laws on the books now and thousands of services to assist women in precisely that.

@Black cat You get what I mean, he sees the world in black and white

There is no inbetween

The US spends $4 billion on precisely that, to help out women in those situations.

Not everyone has those opportunities you know

and my mom does not benefit from any of it

but hey, I guess cause she was a single mom, she doesn't deserve respect

Now, you can argue one of two ways:

1.) It's still not enough, in which case women are clearly children who are in perpetual need of help.

2.) They are adults that are equal to men, in which case they are expected to deal with it.

Or just deal with it.

actually there is a 3rd option, that you disagree with

men and women stop abusing each other

Well, maybe once we spend $8 billion on women's issues they are no longer damsels who just have things happen to them.

Are women fragile flowers, little children or are they equal to men?

Come on, I want an answer to this simple question.

Are they equal, responsible adults or not?

Women are not equal to men, in many varities

in my experience, they're fragile flowers

Then let's stop pretending they are adults capable of the same aptitude to resolve their problems.

so becuase biology proves that woman are not equal, we should just blame them for bad shit i guess

You can't have it both ways:

Either we need to spend $4 billion on whammen, so that they can get out of the same relationships we expect men to get out of, or they are not.

atleast that is what you would say

Which one is it?

theres a big group of exceptions, theres many strong women out there, but in general, women are fragile,

But more importantly, women are human beings, and they'll exploit any advantage they can get for personal gain

and if people are dumb enough to give them it, they WILL abuse it

Codes, are women children? Yes or no.