Message from @Maggie The Magpie

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2019-09-15 04:53:53 UTC  

They are known as fierce warriors, can snap into blind rage to where one man can take down a shield wall in his state of frenzy. The Teutonic Knights took on 2/3rds of the Slavic world and majority of the pagan world In one war, even fighting **Catholic** Poland who spearheaded the pagan coalition to end the Teutonic order.

2019-09-15 04:54:11 UTC  

If the Teutonic Knights started as monks, they ended as warriors on par with pagan berserkers.

2019-09-15 04:54:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/622656456864301056/1559424218020.jpg

2019-09-15 04:55:09 UTC  

We can sit here for hours and debate over the Semitic origin and the extent of its influence, but we’re getting no where by doing this tango.

2019-09-15 04:55:57 UTC  

Your previous argument is incredibly disingenuous to two cultures

2019-09-15 04:56:21 UTC  

The similarities end at warrior culture

2019-09-15 04:56:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/622656965474254858/image0.jpg

2019-09-15 04:56:54 UTC  

Yes, and their legacy is on par.

2019-09-15 04:56:59 UTC  

But it isn’t saying they’re the same.

2019-09-15 04:57:13 UTC  

The principle behind it is that the traditions of old, the warrior culture can still thrive.

2019-09-15 04:57:57 UTC  

Christianity overall has evolved to not be the same as it once was.

2019-09-15 04:58:10 UTC  

It's ideals remain the same

2019-09-15 04:58:22 UTC  

The same as they were at its jewish inception

2019-09-15 04:58:36 UTC  

Least we forget, it was the warrior culture of (Celtic) Asturias that saved Iberia after the downfall of the Visigoths to stop the Moors.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/622657501829136394/image0.jpg

2019-09-15 04:58:42 UTC  

It's subversive, entirely

2019-09-15 04:59:26 UTC  

I believe Christianity now as it was in Ancient Rome, fully European. It’s only sin being anti-Pagan to where it’s knowledge is lost or muddied.

2019-09-15 04:59:55 UTC  

If we strip away the pagan paranoia, Christianity’s main vice is gone and we’re only left with theology difference.

2019-09-15 05:00:17 UTC  

Wow bro

2019-09-15 05:00:32 UTC  

How long was Rome about before xtianity?

2019-09-15 05:00:47 UTC  

Depends, the City State? kingdom? republic?

2019-09-15 05:00:51 UTC  

And how long did it remain after its implementation?

2019-09-15 05:01:00 UTC  

If we look at religion then it’s a black and white my dude.

2019-09-15 05:01:12 UTC  

Rome survived another thousand years after Rome fell.

2019-09-15 05:01:22 UTC  

It survived up till 1453.

2019-09-15 05:02:03 UTC  

Constantinopolis is the crowning achievement of Christian Rome, it is the very beacon of Christian Europe’s accomplishment, power and prestige.

2019-09-15 05:02:06 UTC  

And now it’s still gone.

2019-09-15 05:02:33 UTC  

Built by the pagan Constantine, he is the first Roman emperor to covert to Christianity as in battle an angel showed him his symbol, the Chi Rho.

2019-09-15 05:02:40 UTC  

And now his city, is occupied.

2019-09-15 05:03:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/622658728684027914/image0.jpg

2019-09-15 05:04:39 UTC  

How based

2019-09-15 05:05:17 UTC  

The Romans lasted from 753 BC - 1453 AD

2019-09-15 05:05:17 UTC  

Did you read my paragraph? I don't remember having it addressed

2019-09-15 05:05:44 UTC  

I did regarding the implementation of Christianity as the official religion.

2019-09-15 05:05:56 UTC  

Unless you’re exclusively talking about Western Rome.

2019-09-15 05:06:21 UTC  

I wouldn't count Byzantium

2019-09-15 05:06:40 UTC  

Byzantium is Rome, (Eastern) Rome.

2019-09-15 05:06:48 UTC  

It still is Rome by all counts and legality.

2019-09-15 05:07:27 UTC  

But (Western) Rome adopted Christianity in 380 AD. And it collapsed In 476 (or 480 depending on your historian).

2019-09-15 05:08:26 UTC  

Less than a century

2019-09-15 05:08:52 UTC  

Then you also have the “Kingdom of the Romans” or really just that one province named Soissons that was the official successor to western Rome, surviving up to 486.

2019-09-15 05:09:16 UTC  

That is if you wish to count Soissons as a piece of WRE due to legal purposes.