Message from @Grenade123
Discord ID: 517393215909920768
stop making games free to play?
add in directed marketing to that based on what the tech companies know of every person and how to exploit them and I'd say that almost all of marketing is going down a very dark path
oh it is.... but we gave that shit up willingly
Honestly? It's tough because ultimately do I have the right to dictate how someone runs their company when I played no part in creating it
thats why i stopped using facebook years ago.
even distrusted it when i was on it
southpark even had a great episode on it called 'fremium isn't free' iirc
turned out it was all the canadian devil
If i tell someone my name, and then they tell someone else my name, is it really my fault that 3rd person now knows my name? particularly if i never said they couldn't tell someone else?
but here's the thing, its a choice to buy microtransactions in a game
That's how they get around info collection
fremium games are basically how socialism works. the top 10% pay for the bottom 90% ability to use the service.
"Its public to see your friends"
the only thing you can use against companies is if they lie, either directly or through omission, of what they are doing with your data.
@Grenade123 are they blameless when they collected that info under the guise of a vague statement that stated they 'need access to contacts to function' or just outright lie and take it without asking? a lot of apps have been found to just copy your contacts without permission, or add that in a future update without notice
see above statements
but when it comes to things like EULAs? thats on you.
see facebook and them forcing opt-outs of new privacy raping 'features'
Eula?
yea if you accept you are basically fucked
But if you dont you cant use the service
u know that 100+ page crap that shows up whenever you redeem something on steam?
And thank you grenade
facebook led the way of adding new 'features' without communication, defaulted them to on and had them track you without consent or knowledge
if you don't accept it, you don't use the service....but you don't pay for the service so why do you have any right to use the service?
yes, and as my previous statements, you can use that against the company.
microsoft on updates resets tracking functions back to on randomly as well
the problem is not that they collect this stuff, its that they lie and/or don't tell you.
they ALL lie though, so are any of them blameless?
you can argue that things are too complicated or cumbersome to the point of unreasonable.
why do you still use them if you knows this now?
You're right but it would be nice if they did allow a "no" option to actually mean something and allow you to conti a to use
even discord added an artibitration clause recently to remove your rights to sue without notifying you directly
if you want to argue they need to give up the data they previously collected through lying, that's fine. you can do that, take up a civil lawsuit. thats why we have them
that clause will most likely not hold up in court.
Good luck winning though
not everything in a ToS is enforceable
for example, you can't say "by using this server, we can kill you"
it just has to be reasonably cost prohibitive to enforce your rights
I'm surprised they cant