Message from @Pyro

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2018-11-28 17:29:27 UTC  

Introducing them to gambling at a youn g age

2018-11-28 17:29:36 UTC  

Yeah

2018-11-28 17:29:38 UTC  

teach your kid how to spot and handle gambling

2018-11-28 17:29:40 UTC  

Same with heat

2018-11-28 17:29:43 UTC  

this is a PERFECT time for that

2018-11-28 17:29:52 UTC  

And I agree

2018-11-28 17:30:01 UTC  

the child is still not a victim tho.

2018-11-28 17:30:02 UTC  

hard alcohol sales show that the top 10% make 90% of all purchases, so they tend to market toward those with impulse control issues and addictive personalities

2018-11-28 17:30:11 UTC  

it could be virtual money they gamble

2018-11-28 17:30:18 UTC  

infact to them it is virtual money

2018-11-28 17:30:35 UTC  

and what do you propose to do about that?

2018-11-28 17:30:58 UTC  

stop making games free to play?

2018-11-28 17:31:09 UTC  

add in directed marketing to that based on what the tech companies know of every person and how to exploit them and I'd say that almost all of marketing is going down a very dark path

2018-11-28 17:31:27 UTC  

oh it is.... but we gave that shit up willingly

2018-11-28 17:31:32 UTC  

Honestly? It's tough because ultimately do I have the right to dictate how someone runs their company when I played no part in creating it

2018-11-28 17:31:42 UTC  

thats why i stopped using facebook years ago.

2018-11-28 17:31:48 UTC  

even distrusted it when i was on it

2018-11-28 17:32:39 UTC  

southpark even had a great episode on it called 'fremium isn't free' iirc

2018-11-28 17:32:59 UTC  

turned out it was all the canadian devil

2018-11-28 17:33:02 UTC  

If i tell someone my name, and then they tell someone else my name, is it really my fault that 3rd person now knows my name? particularly if i never said they couldn't tell someone else?

2018-11-28 17:33:18 UTC  

but here's the thing, its a choice to buy microtransactions in a game

2018-11-28 17:33:35 UTC  

That's how they get around info collection

2018-11-28 17:33:52 UTC  

fremium games are basically how socialism works. the top 10% pay for the bottom 90% ability to use the service.

2018-11-28 17:33:57 UTC  

"Its public to see your friends"

2018-11-28 17:34:54 UTC  

the only thing you can use against companies is if they lie, either directly or through omission, of what they are doing with your data.

2018-11-28 17:35:00 UTC  

@Grenade123 are they blameless when they collected that info under the guise of a vague statement that stated they 'need access to contacts to function' or just outright lie and take it without asking? a lot of apps have been found to just copy your contacts without permission, or add that in a future update without notice

2018-11-28 17:35:16 UTC  

see above statements

2018-11-28 17:35:27 UTC  

but when it comes to things like EULAs? thats on you.

2018-11-28 17:35:42 UTC  

see facebook and them forcing opt-outs of new privacy raping 'features'

2018-11-28 17:35:42 UTC  

Eula?

2018-11-28 17:35:48 UTC  

yea if you accept you are basically fucked

2018-11-28 17:35:55 UTC  

End user licence agreement

2018-11-28 17:36:04 UTC  

But if you dont you cant use the service

2018-11-28 17:36:09 UTC  

u know that 100+ page crap that shows up whenever you redeem something on steam?

2018-11-28 17:36:12 UTC  

And thank you grenade

2018-11-28 17:36:44 UTC  

facebook led the way of adding new 'features' without communication, defaulted them to on and had them track you without consent or knowledge

2018-11-28 17:36:49 UTC  

if you don't accept it, you don't use the service....but you don't pay for the service so why do you have any right to use the service?

2018-11-28 17:37:06 UTC  

yes, and as my previous statements, you can use that against the company.

2018-11-28 17:37:08 UTC  

microsoft on updates resets tracking functions back to on randomly as well

2018-11-28 17:37:35 UTC  

the problem is not that they collect this stuff, its that they lie and/or don't tell you.

2018-11-28 17:37:51 UTC  

they ALL lie though, so are any of them blameless?