Message from @Coochie coo
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there is a growing resentment going on (including myself), because these taxes:
If the taxes on gas are offset by reductions in other taxes that fall primarily on middle and lower income people, then it makes some sense if you believe that taxes can be used to recoup the cost to society for behaviors that cost society money.
1) arent used for anything like investment in getting more reliable green energy for example
2) are on their way to create a situation where only the upper class & elite will be able to have a car and go on vacation
basically, a return to the 19th century
I would advocate for higher taxes on oil products and products with disproportionate packaging or which cost society a lot to dispose of (i.e. LCD screens) if it were offset by a proportional decrease in general sales tax, for example.
Idk the situation in france
but over here, if u are doing a working class job
u can forget about public transport to get to work
But I expect the tax increase on gas wasn't offset at all.
Its not just gas, diesel apparently costs 0.something a liter
yet at the pump ppl pay up to 1.5€ a liter
typo?
nah i dont remember the exact number
ah
its really small something around 0.20
But thats just gas cat
Trudeau wants a carbon tax here as well
Diesel is about $0.90/liter here in OR after taxes
add the fact they tripled electricity costs AND now are facing an energy crisis
AND on top of that tell people flying here is too cheap
and needs to be made more expensive because the market is "making the price too low"
And you start to get where im coming from with my 19th century remark
everything they do is negative
Again, I like the idea of taxing choices that are expensive to society as a whole, but they have to be offset by reductions in blanket consumption taxes
instead of gearing towards a positive mentality aka lets focus on finding solutions
Tax gas more but don't tax unprepared food for example
whats happening is these elite dickheads basically telling people to stop eating food because my ideological goal doesnt align with you eating
well they do all of that here cat
"let them eat cake"
But again, the biggest group of people you punish with what you say
are working class people who work in shifts
because they need that car and their income is lower already
now you got voices popping up saying that they need more share-economy going on to solve this problem
do you see the downwards negative trend?
anyways government here was so proud to come out and tell people that the lowest incomes increased dramatically thanks to their tax shift.
hello
Sure true, but that doesnt matter when you make other basic costs way more expensive
Some multi-millionaire cosmopolitan heir/heiress doesn't see it at all. Is there some quirk of French politics that gives such people an inordinate amount of influence?
idk im not very in tune with french politics