Message from @MetGreDKo

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2018-12-02 21:22:12 UTC  

@DrYuriMom interesting.

2018-12-02 21:22:37 UTC  

Roe rules that the government could not interfere with the private provider-patient relationship

2018-12-02 21:23:20 UTC  

A right to privacy is the entire basis for Roe, and one of the reasons I counsel caution to my right-inclined friends when they argue Roe should be overturned

2018-12-02 21:23:39 UTC  

I don't think this is provider-patient though. This would be much more of a generic right to privacy case regarding private property.

2018-12-02 21:23:57 UTC  

There's also a clear 2nd amendment element.

2018-12-02 21:24:05 UTC  

It's still a matter of privacy.

2018-12-02 21:24:11 UTC  

This is much closer to that FBI iPhone unlocking case a year ago.

2018-12-02 21:24:27 UTC  

Sure, but I wouldn't base my defense on Roe.

2018-12-02 21:25:00 UTC  

amongst voters... clinton got more votes.... so technically wasnt she the "populist candidate"

2018-12-02 21:25:31 UTC  

I think Roe could be invoked to argue that unless a subpoena is obtained, and that requires a crime already have occurred, that government accessing your private information is unconstituional

2018-12-02 21:26:29 UTC  

I don't know if 2nd Amendment would protect your right to privacy. This would be about accessing your private information. The decision to permit the gun or not would come later.

2018-12-02 21:26:54 UTC  

Wasn't there some people saying hillary has less votes than trump if you subtract the fake votes from the total?

2018-12-02 21:26:55 UTC  

There's a 2a case here too. It involves licensing and could be used to deny the right.

2018-12-02 21:27:22 UTC  

There's a difference between populist, popular, and vote majority @wacka

2018-12-02 21:27:24 UTC  

A *Roe* defense would make heads spin, but it seems a bit of a stretch imo.

2018-12-02 21:27:44 UTC  

Yeah but it's already been ruled that gun licenses do not impede your 2a rights

2018-12-02 21:27:49 UTC  

There is quite literally no evidence of "millions of fake votes"

2018-12-02 21:28:33 UTC  

In the most recent election, the Dem House votes outnumbered the Repub House votes by 53 million to 45 million

2018-12-02 21:28:36 UTC  

so what is it that makes trump populist

2018-12-02 21:28:51 UTC  

specifically amongst people that actually voted

2018-12-02 21:28:52 UTC  

With how courts and legislators have gradually eroded the second amendment rights, I don't see any reason to believe a Roe defense would work.

2018-12-02 21:29:01 UTC  

Jerbs

2018-12-02 21:29:19 UTC  

Also, Democratic house representation is about their vote share or slightly above it. So gerrymandering isn't favoring the Republicans this time around.

2018-12-02 21:29:24 UTC  

Sent in my feedback on there

2018-12-02 21:29:31 UTC  

Same.

2018-12-02 21:30:10 UTC  

I didnt vote in the midterms

2018-12-02 21:30:16 UTC  

The idea that you can just mandate people turn over social media is bothersome to me.

2018-12-02 21:30:29 UTC  

The 2 people to vote for ducked ass

2018-12-02 21:30:38 UTC  

Trying to think of what I wanted to talk about at first...

2018-12-02 21:30:58 UTC  

I think it was either the patriot law that passed under bush

2018-12-02 21:31:05 UTC  

Are you talking about something similar to article 13?

2018-12-02 21:31:24 UTC  

"In a majority opinion written by Justice Harry A. Blackmun, the court held that a set of Texas statutes criminalizing abortion in most instances violated a woman’s constitutional right of privacy, which it found to be implicit in the liberty guarantee of the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment (“…nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”)."

2018-12-02 21:31:33 UTC  

What about the babys constitutional rights to being alive?

2018-12-02 21:31:52 UTC  

Or letting civilians have a larger access to military force so it wouldn't be nearly as hard to stop a tyranical government

2018-12-02 21:32:32 UTC  

Didn't one of the justices come out saying after the fact that they conjured something out of air to justify their finding in favor of abortion?

2018-12-02 21:32:46 UTC  

No, they didn't

2018-12-02 21:32:51 UTC  

" In his opinion, Blackmun noted that only a “compelling state interest” justifies regulations limiting “fundamental rights” such as privacy and that legislators must therefore draw statutes narrowly “to express only the legitimate state interests at stake.”"

2018-12-02 21:33:03 UTC  

Abortion is a horrible horrible thing

2018-12-02 21:33:07 UTC  

No argument

2018-12-02 21:33:17 UTC  

But tyranny is too