Message from @pratel

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2018-12-02 21:12:06 UTC  

I said, only people they would want to have guns would not get one

2018-12-02 21:12:28 UTC  

@Glaice are you upstate or downstate?

2018-12-02 21:12:39 UTC  

Down, I live on the island in Suffolk

2018-12-02 21:12:52 UTC  

He does too

2018-12-02 21:13:40 UTC  

I'm rural upstate. You'd be amazed how few fucks are given at this point with regards to stuff like the Safe Act.

2018-12-02 21:13:57 UTC  

And it's all highly unpopular.

2018-12-02 21:14:24 UTC  

Oh god the NY-SAFE act is bullshit

2018-12-02 21:14:42 UTC  

*shall not be infringed*

2018-12-02 21:16:05 UTC  

There's a No-SAFE act sign everywhere that's not a college campus. Such BS. And it's probably only going to get worse.

2018-12-02 21:16:07 UTC  

"Only four social-media sites or apps (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Snapchat) and three search engines (Google, Yahoo and Bing) would be subject to search."

2018-12-02 21:16:13 UTC  

Good, I'll use Gab then lmfao

2018-12-02 21:16:21 UTC  

Duck Duck Go.

2018-12-02 21:16:40 UTC  

Atleast the anti-gunners seem as naive about social media as they do guns.

2018-12-02 21:16:49 UTC  

Both email accounts are from Yahoo and Gmail however

2018-12-02 21:17:06 UTC  

But then again, that might be the point. Get a captive audience to preach the merits of gun control to.

2018-12-02 21:17:27 UTC  

Email is hard.

2018-12-02 21:19:35 UTC  

And if you didn't know already, my name is my YouTube channel

2018-12-02 21:20:33 UTC  

Interesting enough, it may be Roe v Wade that might best provide a Constitutional defense against this law if it happens

2018-12-02 21:21:13 UTC  

The basis of Roe was the determination that there is a Right to Privacy implied by the various Amendments to the US Constitution.

2018-12-02 21:22:12 UTC  

@DrYuriMom interesting.

2018-12-02 21:22:37 UTC  

Roe rules that the government could not interfere with the private provider-patient relationship

2018-12-02 21:23:20 UTC  

A right to privacy is the entire basis for Roe, and one of the reasons I counsel caution to my right-inclined friends when they argue Roe should be overturned

2018-12-02 21:23:39 UTC  

I don't think this is provider-patient though. This would be much more of a generic right to privacy case regarding private property.

2018-12-02 21:23:57 UTC  

There's also a clear 2nd amendment element.

2018-12-02 21:24:05 UTC  

It's still a matter of privacy.

2018-12-02 21:24:11 UTC  

This is much closer to that FBI iPhone unlocking case a year ago.

2018-12-02 21:24:27 UTC  

Sure, but I wouldn't base my defense on Roe.

2018-12-02 21:25:00 UTC  

amongst voters... clinton got more votes.... so technically wasnt she the "populist candidate"

2018-12-02 21:25:31 UTC  

I think Roe could be invoked to argue that unless a subpoena is obtained, and that requires a crime already have occurred, that government accessing your private information is unconstituional

2018-12-02 21:26:29 UTC  

I don't know if 2nd Amendment would protect your right to privacy. This would be about accessing your private information. The decision to permit the gun or not would come later.

Wasn't there some people saying hillary has less votes than trump if you subtract the fake votes from the total?

2018-12-02 21:26:55 UTC  

There's a 2a case here too. It involves licensing and could be used to deny the right.

2018-12-02 21:27:22 UTC  

There's a difference between populist, popular, and vote majority @wacka

2018-12-02 21:27:24 UTC  

A *Roe* defense would make heads spin, but it seems a bit of a stretch imo.

2018-12-02 21:27:44 UTC  

Yeah but it's already been ruled that gun licenses do not impede your 2a rights

2018-12-02 21:27:49 UTC  

There is quite literally no evidence of "millions of fake votes"

2018-12-02 21:28:33 UTC  

In the most recent election, the Dem House votes outnumbered the Repub House votes by 53 million to 45 million

2018-12-02 21:28:36 UTC  

so what is it that makes trump populist

2018-12-02 21:28:51 UTC  

specifically amongst people that actually voted

2018-12-02 21:28:52 UTC  

With how courts and legislators have gradually eroded the second amendment rights, I don't see any reason to believe a Roe defense would work.