Message from Dvir in Subverse #general


2018-12-04 02:16:01 UTC  

for what it's worth

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2018-12-04 02:16:35 UTC  

@Dvir I don’t know if I’d necessarily trust the Coptic bishop

2018-12-04 02:16:41 UTC  

I trust him more than the government

2018-12-04 02:16:44 UTC  

But still

2018-12-04 02:16:51 UTC  

I wouldn't either

2018-12-04 02:17:04 UTC  

I wouldn't trust any new church built in Egypt to stand up for long either

2018-12-04 02:17:20 UTC  

Egypt’s better than most middle eastern countries TBF

2018-12-04 02:17:41 UTC  

They even kicked out their own President when he was of the Muslim brotherhood

2018-12-04 02:17:42 UTC  

Israel still the safest country in the Middle East for Christians

2018-12-04 02:18:01 UTC  

Christians are joining the IDF in rapidly increasing numbers

2018-12-04 02:18:29 UTC  

Same with other reasonable religious denominations like the Druze

2018-12-04 02:18:46 UTC  

It’s funny; there were these guys who were “totally not anti-Semites” who said Isreal would fall in the next coming decades

2018-12-04 02:19:29 UTC  

Which I find unlikely, as; Egypt is an Isreali ally, as is Jordan, and Syria won’t be in shape to contest the Golan heights for decades

2018-12-04 02:20:08 UTC  

Israel was able to stomp all rivaling countries in six days, and if needed can mobilize a large chunk of its population.

2018-12-04 02:21:10 UTC  

What do you think about all the stuff over Isreal and Palestine; I have a isreali friend so I think I might be biased towards the Israelites but I’ve heard from other sources that there have been egregious crimes against the Palestinian population from Isreal

2018-12-04 02:21:41 UTC  

And I don’t want to discount the accounts of Palestinian people

2018-12-04 02:23:15 UTC  

Nihilism is cancer.

2018-12-04 02:23:43 UTC  

Lel

2018-12-04 02:23:49 UTC  

Honestly it ultimately isn't a pretty situation either way you look.

2018-12-04 02:24:01 UTC  

I've never seen someone 100% anything on any of these tests

2018-12-04 02:24:16 UTC  

I got turbo middle ground on that one though, iirc

2018-12-04 02:24:34 UTC  

Israel is a shit show.

2018-12-04 02:24:43 UTC  

and it is partly our fault

2018-12-04 02:24:43 UTC  

I believe Israeli occupation is a result of Palestinian aggression, and that is true. The argument there though is that ultimately the Israelis never had a right to be a state in the first place

2018-12-04 02:25:18 UTC  

No they really didn't

2018-12-04 02:25:24 UTC  

I hope the muslims overrun isreal and destroy every last man woman and child there

2018-12-04 02:25:25 UTC  

Although the Israeli people were there originally it has been largely palestinian muslim territory since its conquest shortly after the death of Muhammad

2018-12-04 02:25:32 UTC  

but well, that goose is already cooked.

2018-12-04 02:25:43 UTC  

^

2018-12-04 02:25:45 UTC  

what are we going to do?

2018-12-04 02:25:52 UTC  

Move the entire country to Utah?

2018-12-04 02:26:00 UTC  

I mean, we can.

2018-12-04 02:26:01 UTC  

You're not going to unmake the state, and it isn't going to fall to foreign invasion anytime soon

2018-12-04 02:26:25 UTC  

@Bookworm would that mean Nethenhau is Thor?

2018-12-04 02:26:57 UTC  

So the argument comes down to who do you believe has a more legitimate claim to the land? To me I look at the situation practically and see that Islam is a religion antithetical to western values and those who support Palestine often do so more for a hate out of jews rather than a support for palestinian muslims.

2018-12-04 02:27:17 UTC  

Well Dvir, it isn't even that.

2018-12-04 02:27:21 UTC  

Look, we can remove Jewish rule and authority in the Middle East, or we can remove Muslims from the Middle East.

2018-12-04 02:27:29 UTC  

That argument ended the moment the UN stuck their dick in it

2018-12-04 02:27:31 UTC  

Or we can just let there be war and conflict.