Message from Dvir in Subverse #general

2018-12-04 02:51:08 UTC  

Any ideology can become dictatorial or tyrannical if those that follow it make the mental leaps.

2018-12-04 02:51:20 UTC  

imo, the US is a christian nation

2018-12-04 02:51:47 UTC  

I would say that it is overall, but it is compatible with judaic ethics

2018-12-04 02:52:03 UTC  

The laws for both come from the same source

2018-12-04 02:52:08 UTC  

jews dont really fit in with the free speech part

2018-12-04 02:52:10 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan what about ideologies focused on decentralized power?

2018-12-04 02:52:19 UTC  

Actually United States were founded on secular ideals, but the founding fathers were Christians with a few that are Atheist.

2018-12-04 02:52:21 UTC  

Many jews believe in free speech

2018-12-04 02:52:39 UTC  

They agreed that religion when mixed with government is bad.

2018-12-04 02:52:45 UTC  

oh yeah? what about criticizing israel?

2018-12-04 02:52:51 UTC  

Separation of church and state.

2018-12-04 02:52:54 UTC  

Anarchy seems to end up being gang like in theory and practice; where they essentially kill everyone that doesn’t want anarchy

2018-12-04 02:52:56 UTC  

*“We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”*

2018-12-04 02:52:57 UTC  

Criticizing Israel is legal

2018-12-04 02:53:00 UTC  

And it devolves into Stalinism

2018-12-04 02:53:10 UTC  

Anarchy can end up with one group dominating the rest.

2018-12-04 02:53:12 UTC  

That statement to me doesn't sound like one coming from a secular state

2018-12-04 02:53:17 UTC  

yeah but jews also think its anti semitic

2018-12-04 02:53:29 UTC  

If you basically do anything to compromise anarchy, you will be punished.

2018-12-04 02:53:33 UTC  

Thinking it is anti-semitic doesn't mean it shouldnt be allowed

2018-12-04 02:53:34 UTC  

So it can end up as a dicatorship

2018-12-04 02:53:38 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:53:49 UTC  

Let’s not forget that for a society that can function anarchisticly, it must be homogenous

2018-12-04 02:53:50 UTC  

Today I learned decentralization of power = anarchy

2018-12-04 02:53:52 UTC  

its ridiculous to call it anti semitism in the first place

2018-12-04 02:53:59 UTC  

Which you know what that means kiddies; genocide

2018-12-04 02:54:06 UTC  

Good to know it's all federal or bust

2018-12-04 02:54:11 UTC  

Actually decentralization of power doesn't mean anarchy.

2018-12-04 02:54:13 UTC  

To criticize it no, but often the criticisms are founded on anti jewish sentiment

2018-12-04 02:54:20 UTC  

It means there that the government doesn't have too much power.

2018-12-04 02:54:24 UTC  

There is a government.

2018-12-04 02:54:28 UTC  

Right, and that was my point

2018-12-04 02:54:30 UTC  

secondly, anti semitism carries a hefty... connotation
as if its "hating jews" ... while ... criticizing
israel, and hating jews, are 2 completely different things

2018-12-04 02:54:39 UTC  

I would agree

2018-12-04 02:54:43 UTC  

IF there is no government, what is there to decentralize?

2018-12-04 02:54:53 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:55:02 UTC  

Not all people who hate israel hate jews, all people who hate jews hate israel

2018-12-04 02:55:13 UTC  

I wonder if a Arab who says “I want to kill white Christians” will he arrested for hate crime

2018-12-04 02:55:14 UTC  

no shit

2018-12-04 02:55:20 UTC  

because jews keep saying israel is a jewish nation