I'm just pointing out that until the 20th Century we were getting all comers and our nation is built upon that foundation

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1911-report-set-america-on-path-screening-out-undesirable-immigrants-180969636/

Selective immigration is barely 100 years old

"The literacy test, a requirement that most adult immigrants be able to read or write, became the preferred restriction. Supporters saw it as the best means of securing the “most desirable” migrants, while critics saw education as the product of opportunity, not character or potential. In 1907, when Congress could not agree on its propriety, it created the Dillingham Commission—named for its chairman, U.S. Sen. William P. Dillingham, a Vermont Republican."

henlo

what was the estimated population of the US in 1911?

i assume it ramped up a few years after during ww1 and 2

1911 = 93,863,000

1920 = 106.5 million

1950 = 152.3 million

woah more than 10% in 9 years

And with a war and the 1919 Spanish Flu in the interval

1925 = 115.8 million

So yeah, explosive growth

stock market is having another hissy-fit

oil prices crashing like crazy too

seems to be all oil based

The arrest of the Huawei exec

And the fact Trump and Xi apparently attended entirely different bilateral meetings in Argentina

oil has gone from $76 a barrel to 50

in just a few weeks... and has cracked this morning

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/dow-extends-deep-losses-triggered-by-uncertainty-on-us-china-trade-deal/2018/12/06/4b946f8e-f95c-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?utm_term=.4cb1d685b7bc

the saudi officials said something about not needing another countries permission to cut production

Likely fears of a global recession are rising, which would mean less demand for oil

which you would think would increase prices...

financial sector doesnt usually fear a recession... they are impossible to predict and nothing would get done if they constantly tried to

Oh, the markets certainly do factor in future concerns

That's the whole point of the market is for people to jointly show their confidence or lack thereof

For every buyer there has to be a seller and vice versa

It's a buyers market right now

yeah but in the major indexes the sellers nearly always lose

and go bankrupt before any recession even comes 😛

just wait till they transplant a womb into a transwoman... would that change the minds of conservatives? https://twitter.com/newscientist/status/1070681889281839104?s=20

I mean Ive seen a few conservatives who were asked "are trans women real women, what do you consider a real woman" .. and they answer "a woman ihas a womb and is able to give birth" .. so would they concede or change their answer?

Probably the latter.

And they'd probably tell you to slow your roll, Diogenes.

I mean if they have everything women have ... and are able to procreate... at very least you can say they are committed to being a woman 😛

i mean at that stage I would say there is no important difference

I can slap a human womb into a sheep.

Does that mean it gets to vote and complain about the pay gap?

I wonder if the majority of women would get with a trans guy with a transplanted penis... if it was fully working and somehow able to produce sperm