Message from @Heteronymus Bosch

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2018-12-07 14:52:06 UTC  

cuz the western world is still too free

2018-12-07 14:52:18 UTC  

give it time, it will erode and you'll have China levels of control if we don't reverse it

2018-12-07 14:52:37 UTC  

We'd complain if they do it, start riots etc

2018-12-07 14:53:36 UTC  

Well I would prefer supporting alternatives *now* than rejecting them in the hope that the situation deteriorates to the point we have to resort to pitchforks (literally).

2018-12-07 14:53:40 UTC  

IPFS is torrents + detailed analytics

2018-12-07 14:53:43 UTC  

Point being,

I'd love it if it works, but its based on the assumption that only one of the factions "evolves" its technology

2018-12-07 14:54:00 UTC  

which simply is too big a risk for me

2018-12-07 14:54:00 UTC  

blockchain = audit trail

2018-12-07 14:54:14 UTC  

I agree that a blockchain is an audit trail.

2018-12-07 14:54:29 UTC  

That's why we need to support decentralised blockchains.

2018-12-07 14:54:43 UTC  

Because teh state will get its grubby paws on blockchain.

2018-12-07 14:54:52 UTC  

Why do you think they are allowing it to survive for now.

2018-12-07 14:55:00 UTC  

cuz they don't see it as a threat

2018-12-07 14:55:02 UTC  

neither do i

2018-12-07 14:55:05 UTC  

it it just me that gets confused thinking they are on a bdsm server because of the name before they remember whos server this is?

2018-12-07 14:55:10 UTC  

There may be no threshold at which normies start rioting against Chinese-level censorship. The reasonable response to Apple/ADL imposing Chinese-level censorship on Apple customers would be to torch Apple stores.

2018-12-07 14:55:42 UTC  

No. They are allowing the open source community to innovate, and they will plagiarise those innovations and make all of this censorship look like absolutely nothing.

2018-12-07 14:55:51 UTC  

blockchain is also irrelevant to freedom
and potentially counter-productive

2018-12-07 14:56:03 UTC  

Well it's coming, like it or not.

2018-12-07 14:56:06 UTC  

exactly, they don't see it as a threat

2018-12-07 14:56:19 UTC  

They see it as the ultimate tool.

2018-12-07 14:56:26 UTC  

they = who ?

2018-12-07 14:56:26 UTC  

Blockchain fetishism is counter-productive, sure.

2018-12-07 14:56:27 UTC  

Which is what it is.

2018-12-07 14:56:27 UTC  

yes, until we find another way around

2018-12-07 14:56:38 UTC  

The state.

2018-12-07 14:56:40 UTC  

government/globalists/authoritarians/state

2018-12-07 14:56:55 UTC  

agreed re state - and also banking / globalists

2018-12-07 14:57:03 UTC  

The state will adopt the blockchain and censor/monitor every single transaction you make.

2018-12-07 14:57:07 UTC  

until we find....

2018-12-07 14:57:11 UTC  

And then it's all over.

2018-12-07 14:57:11 UTC  

we've had it for ages

2018-12-07 14:57:14 UTC  

But right now you talk like a guy who wants to sell me bitcoins,

"Its the future"
"Its gonna be great"
"Its safe"
"Where will you be when the market crashes?"

2018-12-07 14:57:21 UTC  

Visa is not the state.

2018-12-07 14:57:25 UTC  

we just invested billions in web 2.0 to kill it

2018-12-07 14:57:37 UTC  

^ literal statement, not figurative

2018-12-07 14:57:53 UTC  

I'm a guy who doesn't care if you buy what I've got or not. I'm prepared to lsoe money.

2018-12-07 14:58:18 UTC  

```Dudes. You need to start supporting crypto. As a political donation, if nothing else.```

2018-12-07 14:58:26 UTC  

That's the point.

2018-12-07 14:58:29 UTC  

sounds like a sales pitch to me

2018-12-07 14:58:38 UTC  

I don't carte if you buy *what I've got*.