Message from @Heteronymus Bosch

Discord ID: 520616937617620992


2018-12-07 15:02:16 UTC  

@paradigm Precisely.

2018-12-07 15:02:22 UTC  

It is already underway.

2018-12-07 15:02:30 UTC  

and i do understand it, but i'm not gonna bother proving to you cuz its the internet, for all i know you're Obama, and i'm a shoe-salesman

2018-12-07 15:02:48 UTC  

And if it is in the wrong hands (i.e. not everyone's, i.e. not decventralised) we're fucked. Permanently.

2018-12-07 15:03:08 UTC  

You clearly don't.

2018-12-07 15:03:11 UTC  

Sorry.,

2018-12-07 15:03:14 UTC  

thats not an argument

2018-12-07 15:03:29 UTC  

Yes it is.

2018-12-07 15:03:46 UTC  

pigeon carrier!

2018-12-07 15:04:02 UTC  

It is an argument that you didn't, and evidently still don't, understand the solutions being proposed to the problem of censorship./

2018-12-07 15:04:05 UTC  

>>> we had the solution, years ago - we spent billions to kill it

2018-12-07 15:04:24 UTC  

Ok.

2018-12-07 15:04:36 UTC  

So what do you all propose?

2018-12-07 15:04:41 UTC  

web 2.0 effectively concentrated control in very few hands

2018-12-07 15:04:44 UTC  

heres your argument
"You're obviously too dumb to understand what I an enlightened person says, so i don't have to bother explaining my sales-pitch to you"

2018-12-07 15:04:45 UTC  

that was COSTLY

2018-12-07 15:05:02 UTC  

facebook, alone, burned 600 million before turning a profit

2018-12-07 15:05:16 UTC  

How to we ensure that people like Tim Pool, one of the few remaining honest journalists, is not financially censored by the current monopolies?

2018-12-07 15:05:27 UTC  

lol, TCP/IP itself used to be hyped as censorship-resistant.

2018-12-07 15:05:27 UTC  

youtube, netflix, twitter, etc. burned more

2018-12-07 15:05:50 UTC  

My argument isn't that you're dumb. Although you may be. It's that you don'

2018-12-07 15:05:57 UTC  

there you go

2018-12-07 15:05:58 UTC  

the financial aspects will have to be the second phase

2018-12-07 15:05:59 UTC  

t (want to) understand.

2018-12-07 15:06:01 UTC  

no substance

2018-12-07 15:06:26 UTC  

>You're too dumb
"Then explain it to me
>I won't, cuz you're too dumb

SJW arguing in a nutshell

2018-12-07 15:06:27 UTC  

Where is your substance, apart from "something I evidently don't understand won't work because I say so".

2018-12-07 15:06:36 UTC  

first we need to extend open protocols and embrace those that truly are resistant to censorship

2018-12-07 15:07:03 UTC  

I esxplained it to you, with as much effort as I'm prepared to invest. You're evidently not interested in attempting to udnerstand.,

2018-12-07 15:07:09 UTC  

i'm not the one advocating for a supposed "holy grail" that you can get on faith

2018-12-07 15:07:10 UTC  

does everyone remember how bittorrent was censored?

2018-12-07 15:07:32 UTC  

BT tracker sites were banned.

2018-12-07 15:07:52 UTC  

There are plenty still around.

2018-12-07 15:07:57 UTC  

the malware spread did more than the trackers

2018-12-07 15:08:06 UTC  

I may or may not use bittorrent all the time.

2018-12-07 15:08:17 UTC  

and we can decentralize the trackers

2018-12-07 15:08:30 UTC  

There's that risk, for sure.

2018-12-07 15:08:32 UTC  

If i use any torrent software, it's for perfectly legal sharing.

2018-12-07 15:09:01 UTC  

And I am not hiding.

2018-12-07 15:09:07 UTC  

Sure.

2018-12-07 15:09:21 UTC  

I extended bittorrent with crypto signatures for verifiability and source identity