But they've managed to work around that.

you have to be pretty far out there to really attract the attention of mastercard or visa

As has the porn industry.

sometimes the censorship is coming from a massive company like Mastercard.

in rare cases, yes

Far out there like, possibly, Sargon?

if Mastercard demands that a small payment processor give someone the boot or else have their business destroyed, they will.

I doubt sargon is worth MCs time

What you don't understand is that Sargon has not been attacked because he's far out there. He has been attacked because he's not.

what you don't understand, is that I am not interested in propping up these new tech companies

Sargon has been attacked?

I don't give a damn about patreon

Financially.

We need patreon for right wingers

If Tim is cut how will we pay him

I don't pay

this is what I would like to see -
I would like to see Sargon set up his own, individual infrastructure
like any small business
and make patreon irrelevant

sargon can

yes, of course

as can most

Sargon is not based in the US.

I realize this

Neither are most of us.

he'll need to sort that out

regarding right-wing patreon, cody wilson set up hatreon
it was deplatformed

And most of this censorship is happening *in the US*, at the behest of American monopolies.

Look, nobody is going to send Sargon a void check.

have people donate to him through UKIP, they can't block that cuz it would be political banking?

when you build a platform and put all the problematic people on it, you attract trouble

I'm not letting anyone directly debit my bank account.

And I'd guess that 99% of people agree

so don't

OK, so you've wiped out 99% of their funding

do you really think sargon could not get a processing account for cards?

I think that payment processors will fold immediately upon getting a nastygram from the "People for the American Way"

patreon != reality
silicon valley != reality

Payment processors survive on mitigating risk.

I don't think they will fold as fast as patreon

Do you really think Sargon - even now, let alone when he was building his profile - is going to process credit cards? Will people trust every individual creator with their credit card number?

patreon is already under fire for all kinds of things

And they're booting people left and right to avoid risk at all costs. Any other payment provider will do the same.