I have the best long term strategy for victory and that includes avoiding all collectives

Safe? or just "careful with phrasing arguments"

Only opinions Google/Patreon think are safe.

fortunately my actual opinions are safe

Only expressed in words they approve of.

and now youre conflating not swearing with ideology

<:TimThink:482277772497125378> seems like both arguments have a point, a group coming out saying what they dislike about the platform they contribute to is a good idea, but it's completely reasonable what Tim's doing... where's the middle ground?

The advertisers

right

I'm not talking about swearing.

You can't even say certain nouns.

Wait until you accidentally misgender someone.

What exactly are you against anyway Atkins? Just him censoring his words?

If so, I really don't think theres an issue at all

I'm against capitulating to censors for money.

then bye

you wont exist tomorrow

When there are ways to fight back.

Thing is, what will swearing accomplish?

becuase you dont know how to navigate a system

It'll just make you look rabid

You're not navigating anything. You're giving in.

you think ninjas wasted their time fighting the guards at the front door?

no

Compromise is necessary to get your point across

they snuck in the back

guy if i would get money for censoring myself, i'd buy my own ducttape 😄

You can't convince muselk, ninja, ali-a, jake paul and the other big earners to join. They are actually YouTubes lapdogs. If small fishes like Tim(sorry Tim) protest, they ain't gonna do shit. I would love for your plan to work, but it just won't

yeah, not saying certain words doesn't mean you can't prove your point

that being said, Tim, you are technically capitulating to a degree

and in fact not saying words aids in proving the point

but that's reasonable

pointing out the ridiculousness, is bringing attention to it

your strategy is to run full speed swinging a proverbial sword at those in front of you

they see you coming

they prepare

you lose

(sorry for just using discord reacts btw, I feel like if I can't contribute anything meaningful to the conversation it's just better to use reacts)

yeah I think Rouqen convinced me, the group thing won't work, the big dogs don't give a shit

pewds is like the only guy who does

😛