Message from @Bodark Actual

Discord ID: 675442984052981798


2020-02-07 20:37:35 UTC  

They want so much music done that I've put off all my other client work or just not booked anything new until for this month or next

2020-02-07 20:37:59 UTC  

Now I'm in limbo until they figure it out and I'm fucking pissed that they're yanking my chain like this.

2020-02-07 20:38:10 UTC  

This is my fucking livelihood.

2020-02-07 20:38:57 UTC  

They're fine with the rate, they're confident in my work, they all vibe with me super good, but they keep putting off payment and it is absolutely maddening.

2020-02-07 20:40:05 UTC  

Every time I talk to them "I didn't have time today, I will revisit it tomorrow/next week/whatever"

2020-02-07 20:40:46 UTC  

Fucking FUCK.

2020-02-07 20:42:31 UTC  

thats big fucking gay

2020-02-07 20:43:04 UTC  

I mean you could always imply the threat of lawsuits

2020-02-07 20:43:57 UTC  

At this point I'm full stop because they won't finalize my contract.

2020-02-07 20:44:30 UTC  

Like **COMMIT TO A DEADLINE OR JUST TELL ME YOURE NOT GOING TO HIRE ME.**

2020-02-07 20:44:52 UTC  

I've been getting madder and madder about this for like a week

2020-02-07 20:45:07 UTC  

Fucking record companies.

2020-02-07 20:45:38 UTC  

I need to vent about it or I'm going to blow the deal by being an idiot in a meeting sorry I'm getting mad.

2020-02-07 20:45:51 UTC  

No man - vent the fuck away

2020-02-07 20:46:10 UTC  

I'd be livid, especially if they were already late and then, today, pulled a "" aw yea bud I can't right now lol ""

2020-02-07 20:47:30 UTC  

Literally cleared my fucking schedule so I could handle their deadlines, ***told other paying clients I couldn't work on another project because I was too busy*** and they won't do the legwork to finalize my contract and pay me the **very reasonable $2600** I'm owed to get started.

2020-02-07 20:48:24 UTC  

. . . yeah I wouldn't threaten lawsuits, but I **WOULD** firmly tell them you've missed on other work opps because of this BS

2020-02-07 20:48:39 UTC  

And then give them a deadline or cancel.

2020-02-07 20:48:44 UTC  

Like the total project value is over $20000 which is why I'm even still fucking with this

2020-02-07 20:49:06 UTC  

Literally anyone else does this shit and I fire them immediately

2020-02-07 20:49:16 UTC  

@INNYGMATYK good idea.

2020-02-07 20:49:56 UTC  

Yeah - they might just be operating on some "" it's cool lol we got time "" mindset, and they need to be notified that they're now disrupting work for OTHER artists who want to get shit done.

2020-02-07 20:50:24 UTC  

Yeah, but whos on more of a time crunch?

2020-02-07 20:50:37 UTC  

Lawsuit / legal work might put them off and sour relations

But letting them know just how much they're fucki g up your shit, and that your future business relations are hanging on it, oughta motivate them.

2020-02-07 20:51:08 UTC  

You're not wrong @thedarkness05 - I just think people listen more if you tell then ""You're in the way. And if you don't move, I'm going to go through you and move on.""

2020-02-07 20:51:26 UTC  

Absolutely

2020-02-07 20:51:31 UTC  

Like, if you told me I was bothering you - fine - whatever.

But if you tell me I'm bothering other people / EVERYONE

2020-02-07 20:51:32 UTC  

well. . .

2020-02-07 20:51:34 UTC  

I'm not saying its the first option. But it is an option. Just lile arson

2020-02-07 20:51:59 UTC  

@thedarkness05 No future contracts if they go broke rebuilding their house <:lol:554425196283559938>

2020-02-07 20:52:14 UTC  

But idk if I'd really work with people like this more than once. . .

2020-02-07 20:52:52 UTC  

It sends a message to the rest. "Pay on time, or accidents happen" , classic NY mafioso moves

2020-02-07 20:53:13 UTC  

@INNYGMATYK it's a lot of money.

2020-02-07 20:53:21 UTC  

@Bodark Actual yeah, it is.

2020-02-07 20:53:29 UTC  

And I'm essentially getting paid to deal with the trouble, which I get

2020-02-07 20:53:45 UTC  

Which would be frustrating me more because, in my head, money/success = efficiency/professionalism

2020-02-07 20:53:53 UTC  

and clearly that isn't a consistent relationship lol

2020-02-07 20:54:02 UTC  

Not in music.

2020-02-07 20:54:14 UTC  

This is very common any time we are dealing with labels.

2020-02-07 20:54:27 UTC  

If it wouldn't rock the boat too much, I'd be threatening a late fee / inconvenience charge / deposit

2020-02-07 20:55:45 UTC  

I currently have a lawsuit and criminal trial pending that I've been dealing with for over 2 years now, kinda wish I had somebody to talk about it but I don't really wanna do it over discord messages