Message from @Beemann
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That's what Skeptic is getting at
You literally tell them they can run away or you will hit them
that is not firce
force*
People are not going to choose to starve to death, or freeze, or work 16 hours a day. They're going to resort to force in those circumstances. Quoting Rand or the NAP won't stop them. That's why Objectivism collapses.
if there is no force in the Market, why the fuck should a "Market Leader" in Motherboards make them without their name on it, without a real box?
@EndangeredProdigy So if they dont run away striking them is not force?
nope
Lolwut
because they had a choice
or finanical force, or social sanctions as well @Beemann doesn't have to be physical force when there are economic, social and mental ways to force co-operation
Lol
@EndangeredProdigy They have a choose not to buy from microsoft
force is giving someone no option other than compliance
Except they dont have to comply
Okay, so next time you get mugged, any beating you receive was your choice. No force was involved
You could hand over the purse or taste my knife
"They have a choice not to buy from Standard Oil" - John D. Rockefeller
```force is giving someone no option other than compliance```
Or give them some serious disadvantage that will kill their chances in the Market.
Not force
@Misomania financial force is backed by physical. What social sanctions are you referring to re: government action?
@Stefan Payne They can choose not to buy it
Oh yeah, how?
ok so the world doesn't operate in extremes. Microsoft had a HUGE monopoly over the tech world. Businesses could not operate without using it. They had to use Microsoft
By not buyin it
How can I choose not to buy Fuel?
How can I choose not to buy Electricity?
How can I choose not to buy Internet?
By not buyin it
Just like the 11M Indians who starved to death in the Bengal famine.
Wtf is my key broken
you can choose not to buy food and die
Shit
You guys are just stuck on the definition now. Agree on something.
@EndangeredProdigy Yeah you can
```ok so the world doesn't operate in extremes. Microsoft had a HUGE monopoly over the tech world. Businesses could not operate without using it. They had to use Microsoft```
Exactly!
not if monopolies control all the food
Here, i'll just grab a direct definition.
@EndangeredProdigy Except you dont need to buy food
The option exists
you have to have the resources to make it
Man its like watching a bunch of slave argue over who has the best idea on how their master should act
you have to have land, livestock, water