Its just a martyr to oppress

At the same time there allways have been movements for equality.

Long before the terrorists of the suffragettes there was a universal suffragist movement for example

Eh i dont believe equality is obtainable

yeah its not

This is true

but weve come a long way. While men are still shit on in the west, its far less so than just 100 years ago.

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thats the thing about feminism, it never meant to do anything good for men but thats pretty much all they ever did.

Well, the vote one could argue was bad for men.

Or at least didn't affect them.

well

its not like women didnt have the vote till 1920. And since 1920 its unconstitutional for american women to have the vote.

Well I mean back in nj, there was a woman that voted back in 1776

thats not how its enforced but fact is gay marriage was legal in the entire United States since 1868

No matter how many laws criminalised it

Wasn't it just left up to the states?

right

not since 1920 though

or do you mean gays?

Gays

well as we know from the supreme courts ruling, not allowing gays to marry would violate the 14th amendment. That was enacted in 1868

and thus, gay marriage was legal since 1868

But when was the legal precedent that established it?

Because for legality that is more important than the law used

Well no a precedent affects all of the past, too

since whenever the law on the basis it is set existed

Well no one challanged it so it was never associated with Same Sex Marriages despite being passed in 1868

The government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all

yeah i agree, marriage should be abolished

Marriage is dumb

^

Well honestly

marriage was abolished ever since numbnuts decided that "marital rape" is anything but an oxmoron

marriage is not only consent, it used to be the only valid form of consent

I met a homosexual couple that cited that as reason for why they refused to sign a gay marrriage ammendment

Just because you marry someone doesn't me you have unlimited and unrestricted access to your body

If your wife doesn't want to have sex with you, that doesn't make it ok for you to force yourself on her

yeah actualy if she doesnt right now thats fine if she never does thats against the established contract

Also, domestic violence is a thing, and domestic sexual violence is also a thing.