Message from @Redneo
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It was Luke from WeAreChange that said that.
you literally said it isn't wrong for a husband to rape their wife
unless you are so bad at formulating your speech
that you meant to say that IN ISLAM it isn't wrong
I think Tiger knows I am bad at formulating my argument
which would be so ironic to what we were talking about at the time
XD
I think we argued once and you were like... we are actually agreeing and I thought you were disagreeing.
Punks said that Islam is not mysognyistic
I was like fuck, I suck at explaining myself.
Islam is Mysognyistic in nature. He proclaims women as objects and possessions. That is a Mysognyistic view.
@Gilgamesh well im saying that neither a man nor a woman gets to refuse sex under sharia and not to logn ago in the west. a man in the west still doesnt get to refuse sex
That women do not get any rights.
They are considered possessions.
what do you mean didn't get to refuse sex
was it expected or was it religious
was it cultural or religious
Can you logically view your toys refusing to allow you to play with them?
Like your computer refusing to let you browse the web?
where in the christian bible does it say that wives cannot refuse sex
bullshit
They consider women their objects and possessions, they believe women can't reject their advances.
Granted Islam is a 100 years behind Christianity which is modernized.
it explicitly states in the koran that wives cannot refuse anything from their husbands
you argued in favor of that
you said it isn't rape
the thing is, there is an objective reality and a subjective reality
@Gilgamesh no, it does NOT say that in the koran.
I am not arguing in favor of that, I think Islam doesn't mess with Western Culture and should avoid allowing that culture here for that reason.
fuck off
holy fuck
Until they mature as a religion.
@Gilgamesh it says they cant refuse sex, and neither can man
i am arguing somehow with a non-muslim as if they are a pure-blood muslim
if you want some "unnatural" sex, yeah she can refuse and divorce you @Gilgamesh
you're so fucked
i'm wasting my time
Muslim is not in the blood it's a religion <:aHaa:376441663280644097>
@Gilgamesh and by the same token, men are treated the same
yes of course!