Having the most inspiration figure in their history be a female was... It felt forced.

I liked the fact that they 'lost'.

eh, this dislike of mikey spock seems a bit odd. she gest accused of being a mary sue

She is a mary sue.

how?

Arrogant, more science stuff than the science officer, close-quarters combat expert against the klingons.

i would watch it but seth mcfarlane has been pissing me off lately. Such as this new metoo'ing of quagmire

Is related to one of the franchises most beloved characters.

she's portraying a starfleet officer and XO of a starship, they're suppose to be well trained. This isnt like Rey, a nobody scavanger from some sand world that suddenly knows how to fly a starship, use a light saber and has force powers yet no training

@Brant she solves everything by how black and female she is

@Brant, when did we hear Riker talk about Data's brain?

Or hear the Indian one talk about photonic realities?

An XO is a command officer, they have to be generalists.

spock was an XO right? and science officer

He was also one of the few people to hold both posts.

He was also a few hundred years old.

False.

no he wasnt, not during ToS

T'Pol... Wait, really?

Spock at the time of TOS was only a few decades old.

Let me check his age.

anyway, so far we havent seen any klingons in STD

T'pol was getting towards her first century.\

Sorry, I must have been thinking of T'Pol... @Jerod_Trd, she was fully mature in the Fifties.

...........

She was a military officer in the Fifties!

Do not make me slap you.

no @Lord Inquisitor H.J. Fleischmann you're thinking of her grandmother

She pulled out the dress at the episodes end.

You are wrong @Lord Inquisitor H.J. Fleischmann

but the lead of STD never used her experience or training to solve anything, it was all indentity based and her position in the progressive oppression stack just made her better then everyone else

she pulled out her grandmothers purse at the end

Family Heirloom.

right

Your coat is old, does that mean you are old?

even if that meant pissing off the klingons and starting a pointless war

@Jerod_Trd, I took it to imply that she lied to him.

the vulcan in the 1950s, was not her

She told Trip her age.

Ah well...

@Misomania the war had started already when the klingons entered federation space, Mikey spock didnt start it