the democrats (and hollywood) had openly communist parties since 1901 though. Not really a secret

Anyway im pretty sure im going to be fine, i survived most of the protest so i will probably survive this one too

I would be curious to know the effect of Hiroshima or Nagasaki weren’t mostly paper

The atomic bombs in ww2 literally saved far more lives than were lost. Additionally both targets were military targets.

Firebombs would have been more effective

Not in spreading fear

Firebombing wouldn't have been a deterrent to further hostilities.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were mostly paper and wood

@Strufa there was a study done a while back in what causes one to identify with liberal and what causes one to lean toward conservative values. In short they found out that fear and shortages causes one to lean toward conservative values, while abundant wealth and growing up never encountering true danger will make one lean more liberal

They would have been just as effective over a longer period of time

No, because it served as a warning to places that weren't paper and wood.

You don’t know the effectiveness of the a bomb in a place that is concrete and stone

@mikeflarkin exactly

@Strufa people that worry about themselves or people they care about or had to worry about getting resources would display conservative values. While those that had abundant resources and never had a reason to worry about themselves or those they care about went liberal

@Misomania Well pal there is a problem im liberal, center left actually

The Japanese had the German papers on Atomic weapons, they had an idea of the bomber group that would drop a bomb.

Yeah, because nobody else wanted to find out what would happen if we dropped it on them

The first Bomb was thought to be the only ones the Americans could make, and then the second one cause the Emporer to have a window to step in and say enough!

Thing about multiculturalism, is if you import people from ethnostates, they're gonna hold prejudices about the new culture they're forced into. They grew up understanding their own culture, and have a host of different worldviews and cognitive biases that will most likely cause issues with the society they end up getting imported into.

If we had used a firebomb then the response would have been "ok well our bunkers are concrete, what now"

@R9b1t you're not thinking logically

“You say you bombu me americuh? Ha, go aheadu.”

“Americuh stoppu.”

“YOU WANT MORE COINSLOT?!”

@Strufa that didn't dispute anything. You grew up in a time when wealth was abudant from the oil market right?

“NUH!”

Yeah instead they said "hory shit that was terrifying we're done"

Nope i was middle class

i didnt enjoy anything about the riches of the oil abundance

Stalin would have easily steamrolled japan

if anything i was demonized by the goverment

Communist? Fascist? What’s the difference?

nationwide wealth, coupled with relative safety that came with the nation having the social services and amenities provided by said wealth @Strufa

There's no difference when they're turned to ash by an atomic bomb. That's the point.

White people bad

ehhh again not really i mean maybe in the beginning but during my teen ages the countriy was falling hard

also again no, we didnt enjoy anything from social plans

@Strufa end of the article said it's a pendulum of left to right as the country goes naturally from wealth to poverty in a ever repeating cycle

only the poor or the parasytes did