Message from @Montgomereeeee

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2019-01-26 18:48:02 UTC  

Yeah but they are being forced to become sterile

2019-01-26 18:48:03 UTC  

but in this case it'd solve problem, base the entry to bathroom etc based on gender in id

2019-01-26 18:48:10 UTC  

nobody is forcing them

2019-01-26 18:48:19 UTC  

@devpav I find physical and mental a meaningless distinction myself, it's all operating on the same substrate

2019-01-26 18:48:25 UTC  

if they change the damn gender they will not need those parts anyway

2019-01-26 18:48:32 UTC  

>building private unisex bathrooms instead of gas chambers for the radical insane 0.03%

2019-01-26 18:48:33 UTC  

but mind/body dualism is such a hard concept to overcome for many people

2019-01-26 18:48:34 UTC  

They are when they choose to

2019-01-26 18:48:40 UTC  

Sorry

2019-01-26 18:48:43 UTC  

but if you're a woman

2019-01-26 18:48:44 UTC  

Think of it this way: The body is our best means of interaction with the world. Getting better with the interactions of our body with the world is the best way to realign if there's something going astray with the mind.

2019-01-26 18:48:54 UTC  

you don't need a friggin male parts or organs

2019-01-26 18:49:03 UTC  

Yeah agree

2019-01-26 18:49:06 UTC  

But still

2019-01-26 18:49:13 UTC  

Mind-body dualism seems fairly hard even for neuroscientists to overcome.

2019-01-26 18:49:21 UTC  

Not for me i cutted a rat's brain after fucking it with stress and it was different(?)

2019-01-26 18:49:28 UTC  

I get into a lot of arguments with right leaning people where we fundamentally disagree on things because I don't see the human mind as separate from the body

2019-01-26 18:49:47 UTC  

I think transgenderism is just roleplay next level be free to argue

2019-01-26 18:49:47 UTC  

We were studing anti-depressants

2019-01-26 18:49:56 UTC  

They aren't, and they interact more than we presume

2019-01-26 18:50:50 UTC  

I don’t believe your mind is separate from your body

2019-01-26 18:50:55 UTC  

I would get into arguments with right-leaning people who grant that intelligence/IQ is heritable yet still cling to mind-body dualism.

2019-01-26 18:51:00 UTC  

I don't believe in free will and ascribe to a sort of bio-deterministic materialism which pisses off a lot of people lol

2019-01-26 18:51:04 UTC  

A gun in a gun free zone? Say it isn't so!!!

2019-01-26 18:51:09 UTC  

in that case you're dying a lot

2019-01-26 18:51:09 UTC  

The mind is a concept that derivates from the brain

2019-01-26 18:51:22 UTC  

since your cells are dying and being made a new

2019-01-26 18:51:26 UTC  

Well I do believe in free will in a certain degree

2019-01-26 18:51:27 UTC  

at some point you have new brain

2019-01-26 18:51:33 UTC  

as such the old you is dead

2019-01-26 18:51:37 UTC  

you're a copy of yourself

2019-01-26 18:51:38 UTC  

@devpav yeah that frustrates me

2019-01-26 18:51:40 UTC  

I don't believe in free will at all.

2019-01-26 18:51:52 UTC  

i don't think either side is right 😛

2019-01-26 18:52:03 UTC  

they'll adopt biodeterminism only when it confirms their existing biases

2019-01-26 18:52:08 UTC  

there's no ghost but consciousness information etc.. i think it is separate

2019-01-26 18:52:10 UTC  

I think we just don’t know for certain

2019-01-26 18:52:16 UTC  

and body is just a container for it

2019-01-26 18:52:28 UTC  

If it was separate we could measure it

2019-01-26 18:52:28 UTC  

But I do thing we should have personal responsibility

2019-01-26 18:52:31 UTC  

I kinda notice that with the right on a lot of things actually, though the left no doubt does it any less so