If free will existed then you would lead your stream of consciousness instead of your stream of consciousness leading you.

if we don't have free will

Dang it, I was just about to write about Godel's incompleteness theorems too

then nobody is responsible for anything

there's some pretty funny arguments you can use to discount free will

like ask anyone to come up with a random sequence of numbers

If we didnt have free will it doesnt matter

We are still we

I think our choices are mostly based on survival instinct and our fight (or lack of) to be on the top of social hierarchy. @ThreeOfOne I think we’re just intelligent animals

And we act the same

odds are the numbers they produce are not random and are probably related to something recent

no, umm, that's animals ;P

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We are animals

i can't imagine how for example fapping helps us survive or be on top of social hierarchy

@Montgomereeeee yep, I agree there

@Strufa go for it bro

again free will is not random and it's not supposed to be, which makes me wonder what kind of definition people have of free will

You wanted right leaning individuals opinions on this, this is my idea of a solution.

Give me a chance Tho i'm in my phone and this shit auto-corrects everything into spanish

We’re literally the only species that enjoys sex @⛧アシュトン⛧ it’s a biological trait so we reproduce more often

the point of the thought experiment is to demonstrate that if your will were in fact free then the results you produce would (or could) be highly random with no discernable pattern

nope

dolphins do that too

Dolphins do too

Really

Didn’t knew that

@Dusty Morgan I feel like it's ridiculous to expect an entire bathing room/Bathroom to be made for such a small percentage of the population tbh

next what about playing games ?

They fuck headless fishess for pleasure

why? why would free will mean random?

oir being lazy ?

why would free will produce random numbers?

what about trans people do they do that to survive ?

@Strufa that’s pretty graphic

but instead you come up with numbers that are relevant to your recent experiences, thus your will is held to neurological constraints of your mind

Hey Nature if beautifull, bigot

what about gay people ? that sure sound counter productive for survival 😄

if will were free then you'd be some immaterial force guiding your neurology, not the other way around

it makes me think people believe that free will and randomness is the same thing

That’s unexplainable and crazy @⛧アシュトン⛧