Message from @Redneo

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2019-01-30 16:30:53 UTC  

he doesn't see women as people tbh

2019-01-30 16:31:06 UTC  

It is not possible to change a person mind, when their perception itself is distorted

2019-01-30 16:31:48 UTC  

Arguing with you is simply entertainment for everybody else and a waste of time for me.

2019-01-30 16:31:56 UTC  

@Dr.Wol oh no i do see women as people. You on the other hand refuse to hold mislimahs accountable for gentital mutilation

2019-01-30 16:32:08 UTC  

you can mind-read too hmm?

2019-01-30 16:32:10 UTC  

Cause you refuse to acknolege their agency

2019-01-30 16:32:38 UTC  

goyim, i put Islam on the pile with socialists and communists

if it wouldn't violate human rights, they'd go into the incinerator

2019-01-30 16:32:50 UTC  

but hey, keep mind-reading 😉

2019-01-30 16:33:14 UTC  

@Abel so where do we disagree exactly?

2019-01-30 16:35:14 UTC  

Perception.
I see history and politics in terms of situations leading to different kinds of laws, needs and wants.
You see it in terms of privilege and power, but unlike feminists, you just say it was the women in control instead of men

2019-01-30 16:37:07 UTC  

When someone complains about the Qur'an encouraging FGM or MGM, your first act is to immediately blame the mothers for following this law.

2019-01-30 16:37:21 UTC  

its not so much history that put women in control as it was biology

2019-01-30 16:38:24 UTC  

see it this way Abel

Life tends to be shitty for extremist ideologues,

they see it You either win or lose,
So since they aren't on the top of the world, they must be part of the losing team

Meaning that the winners are the oppressors

2019-01-30 16:38:40 UTC  

hello fellow white people

2019-01-30 16:38:47 UTC  

I'm not white

2019-01-30 16:38:50 UTC  

it's me moshe shmuyel goldbergsteinowitzbaum

2019-01-30 16:38:51 UTC  

BROWN ERASURE

2019-01-30 16:38:57 UTC  

@Abel And you have a source for the claim that its the law for mothers to decide to mutilate their children?

2019-01-30 16:39:57 UTC  

If a childs gonna get knifed either way, would you rather it be done by a butcher?

or try to minimise the damage yourself?

2019-01-30 16:39:57 UTC  

@Dr.Wol no, we have been starting to win since the late 1800s and early 1900s.

2019-01-30 16:40:44 UTC  

the modern west is no doubt the best place in history to be a man

2019-01-30 16:40:50 UTC  

cuz men pay alimony to women, lose custody battles etc 😉

2019-01-30 16:40:51 UTC  

It's in the hadiths @Redneo
```Five things are fitra: circumcision, shaving pubic hair with a razor, trimming the mustache, paring one's nails and plucking the hair from one's armpits```

2019-01-30 16:42:21 UTC  

Also,
```the Prophet said: "Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.```
Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75; Abu Dawud, Adab 167

2019-01-30 16:43:33 UTC  

There's even more details you can find, like this
```A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.```
Sunan Abu Dawud 41:5251

2019-01-30 16:46:06 UTC  

@Abel thanks

2019-01-30 16:47:24 UTC  

There was also a book called Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual on Shariah, which you can read. It states clearly that circumcision is mandatory for men and women

2019-01-30 16:47:31 UTC  

@Dr.Wol well yeah i may not agree with that but i acknolege that it was a lot worse in the past.

2019-01-30 16:47:49 UTC  

The only real debate in mainstream Islam is whether it should be done to converts as well

2019-01-30 16:48:00 UTC  

Ladies and gentlemen

2019-01-30 16:48:03 UTC  
2019-01-30 16:51:34 UTC  

Woah.

2019-01-30 16:51:38 UTC  

It's so easy.

2019-01-30 16:51:53 UTC  

It is

2019-01-30 16:52:16 UTC  

But if they still havent managed to theyll probably never be very good

2019-01-30 16:52:19 UTC  

which is fine

2019-01-30 16:52:26 UTC  

they can serve us coffee instead.

2019-01-30 16:52:48 UTC  

or if they learn status code 418 they can serve us tea instead.

2019-01-30 16:53:27 UTC  

(by still i mean its been multiple days now)

2019-01-30 16:54:15 UTC  

It's not easy though
I'm making good money off my code but still don't know how the hell it works

2019-01-30 16:55:38 UTC  

I give learning a language a shot once or twice a year and then after a week I realize I don't have a goal in mind and I get overwhelmed and then stop.