Message from @Redneo

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2019-01-31 00:36:05 UTC  

I don't think that's true.

2019-01-31 00:36:07 UTC  

@EndangeredProdigy yeah so did the developers of truecrypt giving them no choice but to shut down.

2019-01-31 00:36:23 UTC  

There was a recent court case in which it was determined that one cannot be coerced to give access to one's phone.

2019-01-31 00:36:35 UTC  

its also not possible to put a backdoor into secure encryption to begin with

2019-01-31 00:36:36 UTC  

It is actually part of your Miranda Rights.

2019-01-31 00:36:41 UTC  

i mean i could agree on the cameras on the street as long as the no sex in public law is retired

2019-01-31 00:36:46 UTC  

You can't ban encryption and have it enforceable, all links that use https have encryption and that's senseless

2019-01-31 00:36:53 UTC  

It is the law against self-incrimination, falling under the 5th Amendment.

2019-01-31 00:36:57 UTC  

lol

2019-01-31 00:37:25 UTC  

Are you referring to some of the encryption bans of the US?

2019-01-31 00:37:32 UTC  

Those concerned the export of algorithms.

2019-01-31 00:37:35 UTC  

In Australia, until recently, warrants wouldn't cover keys unless a judge specifies it covers a key and most judges aren't that tech savvy

2019-01-31 00:37:38 UTC  

Many countries have such laws on the books.

2019-01-31 00:37:49 UTC  

Australia has infinite implied rights

2019-01-31 00:37:50 UTC  

Imagine going to the police station to report a crime that you done, and you run in screaming "I PLEAD THE 5TH"

2019-01-31 00:37:51 UTC  

also a lot of underworld programers will create new encryption system

2019-01-31 00:37:59 UTC  

We're technically more free than America is

2019-01-31 00:38:09 UTC  

i think a true 100% no encryption policy its impossible to implement

2019-01-31 00:38:10 UTC  

Huh?

2019-01-31 00:38:15 UTC  

I'm confused now.

2019-01-31 00:38:29 UTC  

@BlueAndBlack and he cant specify a key thats not written down to begin with, either, right? You can only get a warrrant for something physical, if its in your head it cant possibly be covered

2019-01-31 00:38:32 UTC  

There are situations under which you can be compelled to testify, yes.

2019-01-31 00:38:36 UTC  

the us is ranked very very low on the freedom index

2019-01-31 00:38:39 UTC  

horribly low

2019-01-31 00:38:42 UTC  

But that seems a bit absurd now.

2019-01-31 00:38:43 UTC  

@Redneo something like that

2019-01-31 00:38:47 UTC  

3rd world country low

2019-01-31 00:39:00 UTC  

and still they cannot prevent shit

2019-01-31 00:39:01 UTC  

In Australia, unless there's a law about it, you're allowed to do it

2019-01-31 00:39:03 UTC  

Freedom index?

2019-01-31 00:39:03 UTC  

Ranked by whom?

2019-01-31 00:39:07 UTC  

Press freedom?

2019-01-31 00:39:07 UTC  

talking about laws that dont work

2019-01-31 00:39:07 UTC  

ACLU?

2019-01-31 00:39:22 UTC  

For instance, when marijuana is legalised they won't write a law, they'll just amend drug laws to remove any references to marijuana

2019-01-31 00:39:26 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird well freedom of the press doesnt mean freedom from consequences.

2019-01-31 00:39:28 UTC  

The ACLU has become a lefty activist organization, just like most.

2019-01-31 00:39:31 UTC  

Because it'll be implied to be legal

2019-01-31 00:39:49 UTC  

No, I know that Punks, but the freedom index has some really weird criteria.