Like Sartre

the train is heading torwards five people, you are too slow to run save them, you can either switch the lever and have only one person die that wouldn't have otherwise, or don't act because you refuse to kill that person but your refusal to act kills the five

I fucking hate Sartre

If I didn't know who they were?

I'd send it to the one person

Then I'd find out who the other five are that I saved

If they were evil people I'd kill them

And call it a day

you don't understand the point of thought experiment do you, it's not about adding variables

No. I do

I'm thinking further is all

Your point is to justify that there is no true good

That is a fucking fallacy

You're stupid

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And with that

I will return later

I would probably not act then.

or at least take the specific action of throwing a switch.

Unless I had some reason to.

Can't i just kill all 6. With the train.

That way no one will @ me for not saving the others

And I'll just say that i couldn't save any of them in time.

Although one can just act like he didn't see it, like most people do with problems in life

Not sure how it's a problem.

Families coming @ ya blaming ya for their son/father/husband's death/s is something I'd rather not deal with or explain. @Paradox

see, if i were a bogus mind and trauma reader with a phd and you were telling me this on a couch, i'd say that you base your morality not on an inner innate sense but on the perception that you have from society's norms and expectations. then i'd make you pay $200 for the hour session

Assuming all the tied up people have family and friends.

If i had a 200$ on me i wouldn't be on discord.

ya, see that doesn't matter, the families whining. What matters is the goal. You can't say whether it's over priced if you don't know what it is.

Another qs comes to mind is who are the people on the rails

Which could effect most people's choice.

doesn't matter unless it changes the goal.

the goal is to make the most moral choice

then that is to not interfere.

that's your choice

yes, if that's the goal.

The train problem is about whether you are a utilitarian.
The train is already going to kill people, would you kill a single person to stop it?

Utilitarianism isn't a bad thing, btw. It's s perfectly rational view on life and society