Not sure how it's a problem.

Families coming @ ya blaming ya for their son/father/husband's death/s is something I'd rather not deal with or explain. @Paradox

see, if i were a bogus mind and trauma reader with a phd and you were telling me this on a couch, i'd say that you base your morality not on an inner innate sense but on the perception that you have from society's norms and expectations. then i'd make you pay $200 for the hour session

Assuming all the tied up people have family and friends.

If i had a 200$ on me i wouldn't be on discord.

ya, see that doesn't matter, the families whining. What matters is the goal. You can't say whether it's over priced if you don't know what it is.

Another qs comes to mind is who are the people on the rails

Which could effect most people's choice.

doesn't matter unless it changes the goal.

the goal is to make the most moral choice

then that is to not interfere.

that's your choice

yes, if that's the goal.

The train problem is about whether you are a utilitarian.
The train is already going to kill people, would you kill a single person to stop it?

Utilitarianism isn't a bad thing, btw. It's s perfectly rational view on life and society

What bothers me about utilarianism that sometimes people will make a worse choice in favour of the bigger group?

both choices are logical and rational

I disagree.

that's what makes it great

Without more information.

Conflicting between THE GREATER GOOD and Individual rights

there is no point wasting resources on something that wont produce anything in the future

right?

@Samer that's the problem. By killing the single person, you're basically becoming a murderer, disrespecting his right to life

That's why a lot of people don't like utilitarianism, even though it seems perfect on the surface

Hell if i care.

how does utilarianism works with disabled people from birth

Even disabled people can be of value

I live in a place were people piss on these rights uknoe.

Your inaction makes that five people die instead of one, four more than if you had switched the lever but the same number as if you weren't there in the first place

people die

both are perfect

like that kid who took the one person so it would be 6 and killed them all

I am only responsible for my actions.

not acting is also your responsability

No.

It's just sometimes the utilarian action isn't the best to increase your chances of survival/the well being of a group.

Negligence (Lat. negligentia) is a failure to exercise appropriate and or ethical ruled care expected to be exercised amongst specified circumstances. The area of tort law known as negligence involves harm caused by failing to act as a form of carelessness possibly with extenuating circumstances.

well no because feelings and morale

I also disagree that abortion should be legal.

well feminism made it legal and we know that they are cancer for society soo it shouldnt