Message from @Paradox

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2019-02-04 20:46:45 UTC  

it's just a generic talk about the paradox of ease of access thatis actually making it less accessed

2019-02-04 20:46:59 UTC  

Ppl are softer now. Its easy to mold people

2019-02-04 20:47:31 UTC  

The problem lies in peoples lack of conviction.

2019-02-04 20:47:40 UTC  

we should be more informed now then we ever were through history because everything you want to know is a google search away.... yet it's moved the complete opposite direction

2019-02-04 20:48:04 UTC  

I would disagree.

2019-02-04 20:48:05 UTC  

Its like people dont want to argue the facts, its easier to have the screen tell then

2019-02-04 20:48:12 UTC  

informed about what?

2019-02-04 20:48:27 UTC  

being informed is not a binary yes/no state

2019-02-04 20:48:40 UTC  

Just things in general. Including science.

2019-02-04 20:48:41 UTC  

i dont know what we should be informed about

2019-02-04 20:48:42 UTC  

Does me knowing what pewdiepie's last video was about, count as knowledge?

2019-02-04 20:48:55 UTC  

Depends on how relevant it is

2019-02-04 20:49:02 UTC  

Since its a sign of culture

2019-02-04 20:49:04 UTC  

knowledge must be relevant?

2019-02-04 20:49:14 UTC  

And people really want him gone for a reason

2019-02-04 20:49:16 UTC  

Informed about Christmas music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlXaI3m2eqk

2019-02-04 20:49:37 UTC  

Christmas used to be important :(

2019-02-04 20:49:42 UTC  

even what is relevant depends on how you define it
something can be relevant to your personal life, or it can be relevant to what you care about for the world

2019-02-04 20:49:56 UTC  

But see, people dont even value much anymore

2019-02-04 20:50:05 UTC  

So whats relecant doesnt matter

2019-02-04 20:50:06 UTC  

Don't they?

2019-02-04 20:50:17 UTC  

They value their own comfort

2019-02-04 20:50:28 UTC  

Thats about where a peraons relevancy stops at

2019-02-04 20:51:00 UTC  

I agree with you people only argue and whats important to them, like 2 nerds arguing star wars vs star trek

2019-02-04 20:51:01 UTC  

Idk, you two seem to think people have changed a great deal. I'm not seeing it.

2019-02-04 20:51:12 UTC  

But if neither cared, its easy to change their mind

2019-02-04 20:51:18 UTC  

Or fill with misinformation

2019-02-04 20:51:31 UTC  

not knowing the policies behind the abortion debate because you spend all day in echo chambers of equally uninformed opinions, spouting the echo chamber byline and not having so much a stance as a tribalistic confimation biased emotional response is the type of change it is about. Before all of this everyone involved needed to research and learn about it, now social media eliminates any and all research and instead forces us into echochamber circle jerks of equally uninformed people @Paradox

2019-02-04 20:52:12 UTC  

So, you think me knowing timmy, tommy, and johnny's opinions on the matter aren't knowledge?

2019-02-04 20:52:13 UTC  

Id say stick to your value. Yea its the echo chamber, but there is also a problem when you dont hold values

2019-02-04 20:53:03 UTC  

Coherence is important

2019-02-04 20:53:18 UTC  

Thats why opinions matter, they make patterns even in non democracies

2019-02-04 20:53:33 UTC  

so i guess the context of the information we're talking about is politics then

2019-02-04 20:53:48 UTC  

not information that is directly applicable to peoples individual lives

2019-02-04 20:54:13 UTC  

Well everything can be politics though

2019-02-04 20:54:30 UTC  

I dont mean to complicate things

2019-02-04 20:54:39 UTC  

Like i get your trying to narrow it down

2019-02-04 20:54:58 UTC  

yeah but i don't think one single person can know every policy in a country that in some way affects their life, not even experts

2019-02-04 20:55:19 UTC  

so we specialize on what we're interested in, or we just have opinions without knowing many facts

2019-02-04 20:55:38 UTC  

a single expert now is drowned out by a thousand much louder pundits who don't know shit about what they are talking about though

2019-02-04 20:55:42 UTC  

it comes down to how people choose to spend their rare time