Message from @kodec

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2019-02-04 21:28:12 UTC  

Yup

2019-02-04 21:28:12 UTC  

the plural of anecdote, is in fact NOT data

2019-02-04 21:28:18 UTC  

then everything is qualia?

2019-02-04 21:28:21 UTC  

nope

2019-02-04 21:28:26 UTC  

empirical facts are not qualia

2019-02-04 21:28:27 UTC  

reality is not qualia

2019-02-04 21:28:40 UTC  

so if more than one person agrees something is perecieved the same, it can be removed as qualia?

2019-02-04 21:28:44 UTC  

maths, science laws, physics

2019-02-04 21:28:54 UTC  

maybe

2019-02-04 21:29:00 UTC  

```in philosophy and certain models of psychology, qualia are defined to be individual instances of subjective, conscious experience.```

2019-02-04 21:29:02 UTC  

no, if you can't change it by wishful thinking, it can be removed as qualia

2019-02-04 21:29:04 UTC  

hoh boy

2019-02-04 21:29:23 UTC  

That depends on how you prove it as real

2019-02-04 21:29:26 UTC  

wishful thinking is good.

2019-02-04 21:29:29 UTC  

you can't breathe naturally underwater as a normal human

no matter how much you might want to

2019-02-04 21:29:44 UTC  

so thats a fact

2019-02-04 21:29:45 UTC  

no amount of lived experience, or wishful thinking is gonna change that

2019-02-04 21:29:47 UTC  

so einsteisn theory is qualia until someone else proved it?

2019-02-04 21:29:56 UTC  

Nope its a half-fact

2019-02-04 21:30:00 UTC  

a theory

2019-02-04 21:30:03 UTC  

whats the difference

2019-02-04 21:30:05 UTC  

Build on observations

2019-02-04 21:30:05 UTC  

Ya'll should read Grendel

2019-02-04 21:30:17 UTC  

Qualia is your subjetive interpretation of reality

2019-02-04 21:30:25 UTC  

ohh

2019-02-04 21:30:35 UTC  

Theory is your explaination based on proofs

2019-02-04 21:30:38 UTC  

so its a matter of how much i am able to detach myself from my subjective reality?

2019-02-04 21:30:45 UTC  

You cant

2019-02-04 21:30:49 UTC  

Cause you are alive

2019-02-04 21:31:13 UTC  

but i can invent something that does detach itself from reality

2019-02-04 21:31:14 UTC  

You can try to reach the truth

2019-02-04 21:31:15 UTC  

like a company

2019-02-04 21:31:17 UTC  

or a theory?

2019-02-04 21:31:22 UTC  

But alone you will never be able to

2019-02-04 21:31:41 UTC  

How do you know it can detach itself tho?

2019-02-04 21:31:59 UTC  

by using non-existant reasoning for it

2019-02-04 21:31:59 UTC  

beacuse a company is not my subjective experience

2019-02-04 21:32:01 UTC  

say uhm

2019-02-04 21:32:03 UTC  

its the collective

2019-02-04 21:32:06 UTC  

A unicorn can breathe in space 😉

2019-02-04 21:32:25 UTC  

As long as you use a valid way to reach that sure