Message from @Redneo

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2019-02-08 18:17:29 UTC  

Humans are stupid and wasteful mainly.

2019-02-08 18:17:44 UTC  

the human soul is the human moral agency

2019-02-08 18:17:46 UTC  

An AI neural net could encode anything a biological neural net can encode, and more.

2019-02-08 18:17:47 UTC  

pain is the firing of neurons and the release of certain hormones. It's essentially a "this was bad, don't let the bad thing continue" instruction.

2019-02-08 18:17:53 UTC  

Also there's more to human than their basic components.
If you render a human down to it's basic elements, assemble them together, you do not make a man, you make a lifeless golem that is deconstructed man

2019-02-08 18:18:01 UTC  

I think the better questions is whether AIs can ever develop feelings

2019-02-08 18:18:02 UTC  

@devpav ill believe when i see it

2019-02-08 18:18:07 UTC  

pain is a subset of feeling

2019-02-08 18:18:16 UTC  

and robots can't feel

2019-02-08 18:18:18 UTC  

if you manage feelings in an AI, pain is managed as well

2019-02-08 18:18:18 UTC  

thus no pain

2019-02-08 18:18:27 UTC  

if you reduce humans to reductive biochemical reactions, you start down the path to genocide

2019-02-08 18:18:31 UTC  

Even if you coursed energy through your flesh golem, it would not be a man, it would not live.

2019-02-08 18:18:37 UTC  

@Tinytim absolutly it can develop feelings. Why wouldnt it?

2019-02-08 18:18:44 UTC  

they're just machines that the week have somehow imprinted emotions on

2019-02-08 18:18:49 UTC  

did you know that digestion is actually pretty fucking "painful" but since it's beneficial out brain didn't evolve the "ouch stop that" function ?

2019-02-08 18:19:06 UTC  

like the greeks explaining nature as gods

2019-02-08 18:19:08 UTC  

The notion that humans are merely chemicals reacting is absurd, if that's all it was, we'd have a Modern Prometheus by now from the Cold War

2019-02-08 18:19:17 UTC  

robots aren't speical, they're just tools for my rape fantasies

2019-02-08 18:19:30 UTC  

but robots can't be raped ...

2019-02-08 18:19:31 UTC  

@The Ghost of Monarchies not just chemicals.Electricity, too

2019-02-08 18:19:33 UTC  

Feelings are neural states in humans that could be reproduced by an artificial neural net. It's a question of when, not if.

2019-02-08 18:19:50 UTC  

so's hovercars

2019-02-08 18:19:54 UTC  

haven't seen that yet

2019-02-08 18:20:02 UTC  

if you believe that there's more to humans than chemicals and electricity, you believe in a soul

2019-02-08 18:20:03 UTC  

@Witan you mean helicopters?

2019-02-08 18:20:06 UTC  

no

2019-02-08 18:20:10 UTC  

HOVER CARS

2019-02-08 18:20:12 UTC  

So another question. Would Germany's economy be sustainable if they did free trade agreements with every other nation?

2019-02-08 18:20:14 UTC  

cars that hover

2019-02-08 18:20:25 UTC  

no

2019-02-08 18:20:26 UTC  

hover cars is 100% retarded

2019-02-08 18:20:30 UTC  

Giving flesh golems a bit of the JUICE doesn't make them men, though. Frankenstein was such a monster because he made a creature that way, even though it opposes all notion of what is a man, he made a golem from the ghoulish remains of men

2019-02-08 18:20:44 UTC  

germany would be screwed if they weren't tied to multiple other nations

2019-02-08 18:20:52 UTC  

and a lower valued currency

2019-02-08 18:20:52 UTC  

i just want to hover in a car while raping a robot, what's so wrong with that?

2019-02-08 18:20:59 UTC  

you have to achieve a state of perfect gravitational compensation in order for it not to drain energy like a mofo

2019-02-08 18:21:04 UTC  

robots cannot be raped

2019-02-08 18:21:14 UTC  

^

2019-02-08 18:21:16 UTC  

how long before the JRE podcast? Can anybody @ me when it starts?

2019-02-08 18:21:17 UTC  

So Germany with the plethora of its socialist policies, has to depend solely on their trade tariffs basically?