Message from @Graylan | gray00

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2019-02-10 01:38:46 UTC  

**pilferer#6570** just left the server.

2019-02-10 01:38:47 UTC  

A tax isn't separating the citizen from his property by force. Threat of force, perhaps, but even then not in all cases. Take sales tax, who is forcing you to pay that tax? The government? The business?

2019-02-10 01:39:52 UTC  

@CasualSailor every day I built the future.

2019-02-10 01:40:01 UTC  

So yeah. I can complain about today's shit.

2019-02-10 01:40:11 UTC  

Im building our replacement

2019-02-10 01:40:40 UTC  

@Paradox Yes it is. All gov't is backed by force. That is why we have gov'ts. We provide them with the exclusive right to use force.

2019-02-10 01:40:58 UTC  

Back by, but not always applied.

2019-02-10 01:41:08 UTC  

but you evaded the question.

2019-02-10 01:41:18 UTC  

Sales tax, who is forcing you to pay that?

2019-02-10 01:41:39 UTC  

@CasualSailor the thing about the new system is you can't hide shit.

2019-02-10 01:41:45 UTC  

@Paradox I never claimed it was. I said taxes gov't removing your property by force. Just like eminent domain is removing your real property by force.

2019-02-10 01:41:49 UTC  

Corruption be damned..

2019-02-10 01:42:07 UTC  

Never before in history do we have an immutable global database as a social network.

2019-02-10 01:42:13 UTC  

Right, so I'm trying to determine what the force is that is being applied and by whom, in the question I am asking and you keep evading.

2019-02-10 01:42:30 UTC  

So what are you building @CasualSailor ?

2019-02-10 01:43:06 UTC  

Because, I disagree.

2019-02-10 01:43:07 UTC  

@Graylan | gray00 Tell you what you do. You form a community, get it as smoothly as our current system using blockchain and crypto currency and I'll reconsider your proposal. Until then I'm going to have to stick with what I have despite its flaws.

2019-02-10 01:43:10 UTC  

with that claim.

2019-02-10 01:43:54 UTC  

@Paradox What will happen to you if you refuse to pay the income taxes you are assessed?

2019-02-10 01:44:04 UTC  

@CasualSailor good luck with that. And we don't need you.. you can just lose all your life savings when the banks fail.

2019-02-10 01:44:06 UTC  

Why do you keep evading my question?

2019-02-10 01:44:09 UTC  

Your choice.

2019-02-10 01:44:20 UTC  

Is my question answered by you asking a completely unrelated question?

2019-02-10 01:44:28 UTC  

The great equalizer :D

2019-02-10 01:44:33 UTC  

Income tax =/= sales tax, which is entirely why I said sales tax.

2019-02-10 01:44:47 UTC  

because you said TAXes

2019-02-10 01:44:50 UTC  

Not income tax

2019-02-10 01:45:08 UTC  

Are you going to change your statement, answer my question, or just keep evading?

2019-02-10 01:45:12 UTC  

And banks already failed so many times in the USA and people lost everything. @CasualSailor . This isn't new.

2019-02-10 01:45:17 UTC  

@Paradox Try this. You are assessed income tax. If you refuse to pay the gov't will attempt to take your property and put you in jail. Is this not the application of force?

2019-02-10 01:45:34 UTC  

Evading it is, okay, I'm done, You do not want to have a discussion.

2019-02-10 01:46:20 UTC  

@Paradox Dude, taxes are removing your money by force. Because if you refuse to hand it over they will use force to take it. Does that not answer your question?

2019-02-10 01:46:25 UTC  

Only 5 year ago @CasualSailor

2019-02-10 01:46:50 UTC  

you are still responding and yet still evading, it's interesting to watch.

2019-02-10 01:46:54 UTC  

Why do you feel that won't happen to the USA what did USA do different now that it didn't do in the 20s?

2019-02-10 01:46:57 UTC  

So apparently there was a Dem Senator called Leland Yee who was arming Chinese street gangs while advocating for disarming the law abiding citizens.

2019-02-10 01:47:06 UTC  

@Paradox Ask your question again.

2019-02-10 01:47:45 UTC  

Who is forcing you to pay sales tax? Like say you walk into a store and buy a candy bar.

2019-02-10 01:48:02 UTC  

He knows it all @Paradox