Message from @mishona
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You are a clone
That's the only fact.
Possibly.
:D
@Paradox You may pay your taxes out of generosity. I do not. I don't object to paying my taxes but I do so because the gov't has the authority to use force against me should I choose not to.
I pay taxes because it's necessary on some of the products I buy. Otherwise the stores won't let me buy the products. However, online is a reasonable way of evading this, though I hear that's going to be an issue soon enough.
And I will repeat my original statement, I don't care about drug addicts who do not require public assistance but I do about the ones that do because that public assistance is in part taken from me by force.
well that's not the statement and claim I was disagreeing with.
I know it wasn't. You didn't like my use of the term "force" when applied to the collection of taxes. But on a fundamental level that is what gov'ts are. They are the entities which we grant the exclusive use of force in order to compel the actions of the citizens. One of those actions is to pay taxes.
Sure, government do not exist without force.
but you were also wrong ot say taxes are property taken by the government by force.
Because only some are.
all taxes are taken under threat of force
@EndangeredProdigy Yeah, I didn't realize that was such a controversial concept.
@Paradox Explain something if you will. You said that the gov't uses force or the threat of it to compel you to pay your payroll taxes but not sales taxes. What is the difference?
Income tax.
Yes.
I didn't mention payroll tax, cuz idk what that is.
Ok income taxes then.
Sales tax isn't applied to you, it's to the product, as I mentioned.
When yall clones are done debating
I'm the one required to pay it though, right?
U should discuss abortion and the laws behind it
Yes, exactly, the force isn't on you, in the case of sales tax
Cuz we need more debate on abortion.
Stew Leonard's in CT.
And more on KKK..
Muh evils.
@Paradox The force isn't on you in the case of income taxes when your employer deducts them from your payroll check either. It is on him.
Right?
In the case of the sales tax it's voluntary, you either buy the product or you don't.
Paradox awarded best clone2019
Sorry sailor
@Paradox By that logic income taxes are also voluntary because if you don't want to pay the tax you can choose not to earn the income.
I've never had an employer deduct them...
Seems kinda fucked up.
You can pick If they do or not clone 1
Clone two coming with resolve ..
And.....