@The Wanderer Do you feel the US is doing poorly? Compared to whom?

@The Wanderer no, not really. Our cheift export is IPs

https://www.google.com/search?q=oil+supply+by+country&rlz=1CAKVPC_enVI657VI657&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi82OH99LHgAhUEVa0KHUoaCB0Q_AUIDygC&biw=1461&bih=751#imgrc=oaJSPt2M3kjxWM:

ah yes

the powerhouse of american oil

mumkeys fans

@Gary Payton Tribute Account yes but, its forcefull, so kid is born->go school->learn how to obey masters->teach how communism is great and leaders are great->after school kid MUST go to work->merry->have kid (repeat)
No Trade! No Over-sea/visit non communist country! No inovesion money! No more money than you need to survive on food! No Bonus income!also no Business start!

@CasualSailor my point is that its a unfaslifiable statement

@Khanclansith I thought our chief export was American jobs. Seems like we create an industry, we prefect it, then we take all the jobs it creates and export the middle class ones to China, India, Taiwan and Vietnam.

Why do you think im becoming a teacher?

@Blackhawk342 Masochism? 😁

Well in euro countries it's not that extreme, people can have a high income but the taxes are very high as well @DarKinGate

No it doesn't work like that

I prefer capitalism with some minor elements of socialism @DarKinGate

@Gary Payton Tribute Account I don't think you want any "socialism." What you want is high amounts of social spending, like taxpayer funded medical care, taxpayer funded and guaranteed housing, taxpayer funded and guaranteed food, and etc. Right?

Correct

its ok, in communist country there is no taxes, because all you get is set income for a job you do, yet its low. also you cant use any of oversea product, if you have even a toilet paper witch is not approved and numerated by communist rejime you will go to prison

Maybe not even higher amounts of social spending necessarily, but the point is there needs to be some social spending and some kind of basic government services

A lot of our current social programs need reform

PS: i'm for mixed economy btw

@Gary Payton Tribute Account You don't want the gov't to OWN the means of production. You just want the gov't to control the RESULTS of production. You want the gov't to be able to give away what others have made. It's a noble idea in theory but a viscous one in practice.

I think the government should be able to regulate industry to a certain extent, do you agree some regulation is good for consumer safety and standard practices?

I hope the communists win the ww3

@Gary Payton Tribute Account I believe gov't has a role to play to protect me from the adverse actions of other.

And do you think the government should be able to impose small taxes to offer services such as police, fire, medical support for its citizens?

yes

Or tax citizens for basic infrastructure improvements such as bridges and roads?

that should be only thing what government provides imo

yes

also border security and keeping peace in the country

@Gary Payton Tribute Account I would prefer roads and bridges to be paid for by those that use them, including me, via direct taxes on vehicles based on mileage and weight of the vehicle.

GOV: hey, are you getting 1k every month? huh nice, you know this random guy needs help he cut his finger! give me 50$ or you are going prison! NOW!

@CasualSailor yes thats a fair way to tax, the point is we agree the government should be able to tax citizens to fund public projects and public services that improve the quality of life of its citizens

you know we could improve quality of life of citizens more if we tax 100% ❤

@Gary Payton Tribute Account Not exactly. Monday morning there will be thousands of able bodied citizens who will not go to work anywhere. They live in housing, eat food, get medical care and etc all funded by the taxpayer. That same day, thousands of Mexican and other aliens will cross the border to take jobs picking fruit, building houses and etc. They too will receive benefits paid for by the taxpayer. This I do not agree with. I should not have to pay for anyone's "quality of life."

@DarKinGate I think if the government taxes everyone for some health care funds and used that money to get discounts on drugs and services, and provide basic emergency health services

do you like 25% tax?

@CasualSailor that's an extreme version of it

I believe in strong border security anyway

Not really that extreme

I mean, it's pretty common where i live to pay 25% tax