Message from @SpiderLedgic (Cancer)

Discord ID: 650455202339749939


2019-11-26 00:07:57 UTC  

God needs to get better at designing things lel

2019-11-29 14:07:17 UTC  

>>ban <@454380174029357089>

2019-11-29 14:07:18 UTC  

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully banned <@454380174029357089>

2019-11-29 18:08:53 UTC  

Slash if u think that way, you lack serious intelligence 😂

2019-11-29 18:08:57 UTC  

For real

2019-11-29 18:09:42 UTC  

Say no more

2019-11-30 08:05:56 UTC  

@Dizaster explain. Are there not countless mistakes and design flaws? Is reality not contrary to what would be expected from a purposeful designer?

2019-11-30 09:05:16 UTC  

pls rich

2019-11-30 09:05:16 UTC  

2019-11-30 12:44:58 UTC  

@scaredrobot discernment. What you see as flaws are not flaws in design. Il give you thing I know. 99% of ilness are not genetics. If you were going to say that. Look on micro level in nature and our body. You are viewing it from different glasses. The glasses that do not represent design

2019-11-30 12:46:55 UTC  

Show me the 'flaws' you see.

2019-11-30 12:55:32 UTC  

Flaws I see are vestigial traits. Auriculares muscles, orbitalis muscles, arrector pili muscle, the apendix, the coccyx, male nipples, foetal gill slits. Just a couple of design flaws in a single species of primate. These have no use to humans but are useful to other organisms. I guess my question is, why would a designer put so many vestigial or sometimes harmful (such as in the case of wisdom teeth) structures into any organism much less all organisms?

2019-11-30 16:16:40 UTC  

Those things are not design flaws

2019-11-30 19:05:39 UTC  

Those are not flaws. How is even male nipple flaw lol

2019-11-30 19:05:55 UTC  

its rhetoric

2019-11-30 20:47:48 UTC  

How many people realize evolution isn’t just Darwinism

2019-11-30 20:48:21 UTC  

We used to need wisdom at some point in our history otherwise we would have never evolved them in the first place

2019-11-30 20:48:43 UTC  

But now we have utensils so we don’t need them. They can’t just disappear over night. Over many generations though? Yes of course

2019-11-30 20:51:42 UTC  

Diet has changed

2019-11-30 21:50:17 UTC  

Precisely! They're not flaws in design. They're vestiges of our distant ancestors

2019-11-30 21:56:45 UTC  

Our diet hasn’t just changed but utensils happen to be vastly superior to wisdom teeth

2019-11-30 21:57:17 UTC  

The appendix has also recently been found to have functional uses

2019-11-30 22:34:40 UTC  

Can you elaborate at all? As far as I know, all the proposed functions of the appendix are just hypotheses

2019-11-30 22:37:51 UTC  

I should also point out that 'vestigial' does not necessarily mean 'useless'. It just means any rudimentary function of a structure such as the appendix is far removed from its non-rudimentary function in our ancestor.

For example, you have three muscles in each of your ears that you probably can't control. A few people can use them to wiggle their ears slightly but this is a rudimentary use. Rabbits, on the other hand, can use them very precisely to orient their ears to the direction of sounds, a non-rudimentary use.

2019-11-30 22:55:10 UTC  

The appendix harbours beneficial bacteria when illness flushes them out from the rest of the intestines

2019-11-30 22:55:59 UTC  

So it is very helpful to the immune system

2019-11-30 22:56:21 UTC  

You can still live without one however

2019-12-01 02:43:27 UTC  

End of the day, aint flaws

2019-12-01 02:43:52 UTC  

Point is there is a intelligent design

2019-12-01 02:44:03 UTC  

From a high source

2019-12-01 02:44:55 UTC  

Basic logic, nothingness / luck cant produce where we are today

2019-12-01 02:45:13 UTC  

And even where we were in the past

2019-12-01 02:47:17 UTC  

I am confident to say, that if you cant see this... You have a different framework of mind, that isnt in tune with reality

2019-12-01 03:28:19 UTC  

Actually

2019-12-01 03:28:48 UTC  

In a potentially infinite universe it’s not that unbelievable that a planet happened to host life

2019-12-01 03:30:03 UTC  

It’s ignorant to say that there is no chance of life developing naturally

2019-12-01 04:08:09 UTC  

The presence of a useless muscle set is not a flaw? These are structures that have specific functions in some animals but only a rudimentary function in other animals. Why would a designer put these structures into an animal that has no use for it?

2019-12-01 04:10:11 UTC  

Consider the thousands of pseudogenes that are ubiquitously silenced but are present in every cell nonetheless. Why would a designer put the genes from one organism into another then not allow them to use it?

2019-12-01 04:10:58 UTC  

If organisms were designed, these would be serious design flaws. But they're not; so they aren't

2019-12-01 08:21:04 UTC  

To say that we're too complex to have developed naturally would imply that an actual god or intelligent designer would be simpler than we are.

2019-12-01 13:43:54 UTC  

@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) let me put it this way, all matter is created and functions according to the higher source. So a planet to host life, still stems from the creator in every infinite universe. Though we would not understand everything in detail because we are limited in every aspect. What you call "naturally" still stems from the creator. Matter can't exist without a source.