Message from @!Link

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2019-12-23 10:44:43 UTC  

@Jondar02 I looked into it, the original website says nothing about vaccine uptake. It was literally fabricated by someone and put there. Here's the website:

2019-12-23 11:04:30 UTC  

@Jondar02 Nvm, I would be dishonest to ignore this. Scroll down to page 15 and you will see the vaccine coverage.

It's a shame that the guy who did the chart didn't properly add this in his sources. You're right but I would argue that the vaccination coverage was still low (~50% in the 80's) and as you can see in pic related it was already almost gone in that time.

2019-12-23 11:07:35 UTC  

I retract my previous statements. 🤪 If you're gonna make a chart, you should properly include the source and not make the viewer chase it.

2019-12-23 11:10:34 UTC  

"Vaccine coverage remained low until the late 1980s and was
insufficient to interrupt measles transmission. Therefore, annual notifications only
fell to between 50,000 and 100,000 and measles remained a major cause of
morbidity and mortality"

2019-12-23 13:27:19 UTC  

So yes, it wasn't instantly

2019-12-23 15:48:52 UTC  

So vaccines work then

2019-12-23 15:50:04 UTC  

work in what sense?

2019-12-23 15:51:35 UTC  

stop people getting disease which does little harm, making them more susceptible to other illnesses?

2019-12-23 15:52:06 UTC  

wasting time and resources which are in demand

2019-12-23 16:22:35 UTC  

can you specify "other illnesses"

2019-12-23 16:24:05 UTC  
2019-12-23 16:24:11 UTC  

not measles

2019-12-23 16:24:22 UTC  

what than?

2019-12-23 16:24:37 UTC  

are you only aware of measles?

2019-12-23 16:24:57 UTC  

you think that is the only disease

2019-12-23 16:25:19 UTC  

can u just answer the question

2019-12-23 16:25:32 UTC  

can you

2019-12-23 16:26:12 UTC  

I don't think you have an idea of what the other illnesses are, do you?

2019-12-23 16:43:03 UTC  

Do you think the only illness is measels? @!Link You are guilty of the same shit you are saying chad is.

2019-12-23 16:43:45 UTC  

I am completely aware that there are more illnesses

2019-12-23 16:48:16 UTC  

but do you think the only illness is measels?

2019-12-23 16:54:49 UTC  


2019-12-23 16:55:03 UTC  

if i though measles ws the only disease why would i say 15:51] chad: stop people getting disease which does little harm, making them more susceptible to other illnesses?

2019-12-23 16:56:31 UTC  

i was just wondering what other diseases you ment with "other illnesses"

2019-12-23 16:58:28 UTC  

as in which

2019-12-23 17:00:09 UTC  

you could try polite conversation

2019-12-23 17:00:20 UTC  

just a crazy idea

2019-12-23 17:01:58 UTC  

I'm just asking a question which i think got miss understood

2019-12-23 17:03:20 UTC  

it weakens your immune system

2019-12-23 17:05:04 UTC  

Does getting sick build immune system?
A child exposed to colds and viruses earlier in life will develop a stronger immune system and is less likely to become sick in his or her later years. ... So, if you get it earlier, you're going to be immune earlier.”

2019-12-23 17:27:52 UTC  

Yes but wouldn't a vaccine do that, except the child doesn't have to go through the risk of fighting off the disease?

2019-12-23 17:28:04 UTC  

Well, the full disease.

2019-12-23 17:28:08 UTC  

At it's strength.

2019-12-23 17:28:26 UTC  

Having the child get the disease can be dangerous.

2019-12-23 17:28:27 UTC  

And vaccines work the same way, by introducing a weakened form of the illness you develop the immune system without the need for the full illness. This way the immune system gets significantly less weakened in comparison to the real deal without (too much [I don't know the numbers on that]) comprising the outcome, aka immunity

2019-12-23 17:28:50 UTC  

I do not know where I stand on vaxx.

2019-12-23 17:29:08 UTC  

We'll I'm definitely pro-vax, let that be clear

2019-12-23 17:29:17 UTC  

One side of me agrees that they save millions of lives, and the other side is like, well the gov't can put shit into it.

2019-12-23 17:29:54 UTC  

Yeah you have a point there, but I don't know the exact influence of the government in it.

2019-12-23 17:30:08 UTC  

I see more positive than negative with vax, so i'm fine with it.