Message from @Drewski4343

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2020-03-19 22:25:57 UTC  

so, how do you know for sure it's a sphere?

2020-03-19 22:27:47 UTC  

I don’t know for sure it’s a sphere. Most things in science are called theories, as nothing is certain.
Science was and has always been constructed around theories. Nothing is certain. However that doesn’t mean just cause some things are not certain, others are. In other words one being incorrect doesn’t mean another incorrect idea is correct. But look at examples of scientific development, from Dalston to Thomson and Schrödinger/Heisenberg's atomic models, Newton to Einstein's laws of physics, etc. When the theories were proved inaccurate, science refines them.

2020-03-19 22:28:21 UTC  

I have never seen it with my own eyes, but the experiments done and the math says it is round.

2020-03-19 22:31:44 UTC  

A lot of people around here would call that an "appeal to authority." That is to say that people have told you it is a globe and you're willing to believe them. In a debate setting, that's not exactly convincing evidence.

2020-03-19 22:32:50 UTC  

The flat earth theory seems to be built around this idea that “if I didn’t see it then it’s not true” or that it doesn’t exist. Which is ridiculous. Atoms exist, but you don’t see them.
Most flat earthers I have talked to tend to bring up the Bible, but if they have never seen god or talked to him..would u call that an “appeal to authority.”

2020-03-19 22:33:02 UTC  

I can use math

2020-03-19 22:33:10 UTC  

To prove it

2020-03-19 22:33:27 UTC  

Well there is so single equation of course

2020-03-19 22:33:55 UTC  

It’s a mix of experiments done to come to a conclusion

2020-03-19 22:34:41 UTC  

An appeal to faith is not something I would consider during a debate either. A lot of flat earthers around here will be happy to provide you with a lot of evidence and experiments.

2020-03-19 22:35:17 UTC  

Evidence?

2020-03-19 22:35:21 UTC  

What evidence

2020-03-19 22:35:24 UTC  

Also what experiments

2020-03-19 22:35:53 UTC  

Well, I actually just had a talk earlier today with another staff member about the Black Swan evidence.

2020-03-19 22:36:03 UTC  

I'll pull it up, just a sec

2020-03-19 22:37:22 UTC  

The argument is that the visible horizon behind the second rig shouldn't be visible.

2020-03-19 22:37:44 UTC  

Due to the maximum distance with refraction one should be able to see on a globe.

2020-03-19 22:38:51 UTC  

well the GEOMETRIC HORIZON should be NO fartther, and all from, one foot should be 1.22miles

2020-03-19 22:38:55 UTC  

we see ten miles plus

2020-03-19 22:39:13 UTC  

^ Lograin's an expert on this

2020-03-19 22:39:28 UTC  

not expert, but this is basic geometry

2020-03-19 22:39:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/690328674116829184/Geometric_horizon.png

2020-03-19 22:40:14 UTC  

the physical line horizon, geometric horizon, is what glob erfers claim ships disappear over, so this isnt a REFRACTED horizon

2020-03-19 22:40:32 UTC  

You still with us, Siegfried?

2020-03-19 22:40:55 UTC  

this is the issues, so now we can see ten miles at one foot OH proves that R of glob model is wrong

2020-03-19 22:41:13 UTC  

an to match our observations R would have to be 230,000miles

2020-03-19 22:41:59 UTC  

I have no idea wtf he’s talking about

2020-03-19 22:42:17 UTC  

So you dont geometry

2020-03-19 22:42:19 UTC  

okay

2020-03-19 22:42:20 UTC  

we can see farther than we're supposed to

2020-03-19 22:42:35 UTC  

“well the GEOMETRIC HORIZON should be NO fartther, and all from, one foot should be 1.22miles” what?...

2020-03-19 22:42:52 UTC  

you glob model asserts a PHYSICAL horizon

2020-03-19 22:42:54 UTC  

What do u mean we can see farther

2020-03-19 22:42:58 UTC  

called a GEOMETRIC HORIZON

2020-03-19 22:43:09 UTC  

this is the PHYSICAL: line you asssert ships dissappear over

2020-03-19 22:43:24 UTC  

BUT we do not OBSERVE this

2020-03-19 22:43:40 UTC  

when you calculate the GH from OH of one foot its 1.22 miles

2020-03-19 22:43:48 UTC  

and its impossible to see farther

2020-03-19 22:43:55 UTC  

as there is a PHYSIACAL obstruction

2020-03-19 22:44:03 UTC  

either the 'curve' water or land