Point is, OPSEC is as influenced by governmental influences are you yourself are.

Saying they are taking it, I could with the same conviction accuse you of the same.

Both are equally pointless statements.

@Thinky it always boils down to putting faith in what the organization said or posted the picture is truth, putting faith in something is not proof

Well for something so pointless it sure is taking up a lot of space here

Wrong

Lol

Then you succumb to the same failing

besides nasa has lied in the past, an informative source that lies once has its credibility ripped off

You out faith in your own organizations, your own circle of people.

It is something we all do, to "assume" on some basic principles.

The difference is the quantity and scope of the assumptions.

hold on, on we still talking about CGI vs non CGI?

Seems no longer to be the case.

Since you stated you were not claiming that

Instead we seem to be clarifying what is a Burden of Proof Fallacy

i should've approached this ''how is the picture taken of the satellite true'' i can agree with you. the point is that these pictures requires a lot of faith in an organization that lied/deceived people in the past

i never stated i am not claiming that, i stated that i never claimed that as you suggested i did

In a basic sense, someone makes Claim A with some rudimentary backing (like a photo, quote, or the like) person 2 makes a rebuke to Claim A with counterclaim B

It is then their burden to prove the counterclaim

Can we use pictures of amateur astronomers who arent affiliated with NASA?

my problem is that Authoritative figure A can make any extraordinary claim and make it irrefutable, since the people have no way of disproving nor provingg it there's no way it should be real and used as evidence for such but people will still use it as proof

sure we can yeah

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRKNaNSg48bVf0jn6OnLpCA6STrtRpuk_dTGx-ZbtQseuZPEEbt

https://www.cnet.com/news/spectacular-space-station-photo-taken-from-a-back-yard/

https://images.ctfassets.net/cnu0m8re1exe/29RdtG8TOuI5UBnGaTgKW2/3b2ec5cd0a5876f0e3c39b4b68886af8/vandebergh_kh111.jpg

Most technology used by NASA is developed by universities

@Flat earth BEAST That is why Authoritative Figure A is required to have some form of backing

Be it initial photos, quotes from reports, etc.

Failing to do so means the claim can be disregarded without need for counter evidence

Actually I retract that

we agree that the iss is out there but not the other satellites, the iss can be observed but not the other sattelies. to what it's properties or if it orbits the earth is that is for debate

especially when those people are tiny with susceptible highly absorb-able brains such as junior school kids for example

Simply put, claims made without evidence can be disregarded without evidence

Most technology thought to be used by NASA is developed and operated by universities

Well, or the DOD

Atlas comes to mind

The Arecibo Radio Telescope was built by Cornell University

@Thinky yeah, what i didn't hear is your backing of the picture that the satellite is there

Wait why is the ISS believable but smaller satellites are not now? I'm super confused.

well, if evidence is being deliberately hidden then the opposing stance doesn't stand a chance to gather that evidence .. quite a fair setup they've got running ey