Message from @DorgonIzFly

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2020-02-08 19:38:05 UTC  

Gives you some truth, only to lie to you about something else.

2020-02-08 19:38:27 UTC  

He’s an awful person.

2020-02-08 19:41:52 UTC  

He operates under the premise that earth is a stationary sphere floating in space. I honestly cannot get on board with that belief.

2020-02-08 19:43:20 UTC  

His explanation for it is that the earth sits at the barycenter of the universe, locked at the center of mass of ALL mass.

2020-02-08 19:45:39 UTC  

So many people do that very thing, where they will purposely pick and choose areas of science, so they don’t upset all the mainstream, because they still want to be taken serious by the mainstream. Young earth creationists do it, mud fossil university does it, Kent hovind, and Robert Sungenis do. The list goes on and on.

2020-02-08 19:47:34 UTC  

I don't think they're concerned with maintaining the mainstream; they outright reject relativity for Newtonian physics. They're practically begging to be not taken seriously by their peers.

2020-02-08 19:48:27 UTC  

You’d be surprised.

2020-02-08 19:49:06 UTC  

Although, they often *appeal* to relativity when debating, which is confusing and dishonest

2020-02-08 19:50:50 UTC  

The mainstream has the same problem with being honest. Makes all of this confusing.

2020-02-08 19:57:13 UTC  

earth is flat but appears curved from space bc our universe is on the event horizon of an extremely massive (universe scale) black hole

2020-02-08 19:57:33 UTC  

gravitational lensing effect of the black hole

2020-02-08 19:57:45 UTC  

that's why there's a Great Attractor in space

2020-02-08 19:57:56 UTC  

that points toward the center of the black hole

2020-02-08 19:59:59 UTC  

this also creates our perception of time

2020-02-08 20:00:09 UTC  

future => toward the gravity well

2020-02-08 20:04:52 UTC  

all planets are real but they are planes, warped by lensing

2020-02-08 20:04:52 UTC  

watch and learn

2020-02-08 20:06:22 UTC  

globers aren't intentionally wrong they just don't understand this

2020-02-08 20:07:32 UTC  

just good people trying to make sense of what they think they see

2020-02-08 20:07:45 UTC  

uhhhh sorry if you can refute some of the claims in this link i might actually take your veiw into perspective but i dont consider just any keyboard warrior to hold the credentials that scientists do

2020-02-08 20:08:01 UTC  

no, this is legit

2020-02-08 20:08:27 UTC  

from the perspective of earth we don't experience the gravitational lensing - that's why we can see that the planet is a plane

2020-02-08 20:09:09 UTC  

heres a question

2020-02-08 20:09:26 UTC  

is there anything someone could present to you to show the earth isnt flat?

2020-02-08 20:09:58 UTC  

is there anything someone could present to you to show the sky isnt blue?

2020-02-08 20:10:15 UTC  

answer my question

2020-02-08 20:10:32 UTC  

it was an attempt to with a rhetorical question. The answer depends on the frame of reference.

2020-02-08 20:10:42 UTC  

noi its simple

2020-02-08 20:10:45 UTC  

very simple

2020-02-08 20:10:49 UTC  

its a yes or no

2020-02-08 20:10:57 UTC  

If we existed on universal scale we would see one thing, if we exist on planetary scale we see something different

2020-02-08 20:11:10 UTC  

and it will inform us if your world veiw is set in stone regaurdless of logical facts

2020-02-08 20:11:22 UTC  

so yes, there are frames of reference in which celestial bodies appear spherical

2020-02-08 20:11:39 UTC  

just as there are lenses on a camera that can warp light to appear distorted

2020-02-08 20:11:59 UTC  

so given what we witness is that planets are spherical why is it "logical" to assume this one isnt?

2020-02-08 20:12:06 UTC  

all planets are planes

2020-02-08 20:12:15 UTC  

from the frame of reference of the planet

2020-02-08 20:12:41 UTC  

all planets are spherical from the frame of reference of a universal sized observer

2020-02-08 20:12:53 UTC  

all reality is planar from the frame of reference of God

2020-02-08 20:12:57 UTC  

so answer the question = can you be shown the earth isnt flat? or is there no amount of evidence you could be show or arguments presented to change your mind?