You’d be surprised.

Although, they often *appeal* to relativity when debating, which is confusing and dishonest

The mainstream has the same problem with being honest. Makes all of this confusing.

earth is flat but appears curved from space bc our universe is on the event horizon of an extremely massive (universe scale) black hole

gravitational lensing effect of the black hole

that's why there's a Great Attractor in space

that points toward the center of the black hole

this also creates our perception of time

future => toward the gravity well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ak7Qy_dHmk&t=623s

all planets are real but they are planes, warped by lensing

watch and learn

globers aren't intentionally wrong they just don't understand this

just good people trying to make sense of what they think they see

uhhhh sorry if you can refute some of the claims in this link i might actually take your veiw into perspective but i dont consider just any keyboard warrior to hold the credentials that scientists do

no, this is legit

from the perspective of earth we don't experience the gravitational lensing - that's why we can see that the planet is a plane

heres a question

is there anything someone could present to you to show the earth isnt flat?

is there anything someone could present to you to show the sky isnt blue?

answer my question

it was an attempt to with a rhetorical question. The answer depends on the frame of reference.

noi its simple

very simple

its a yes or no

If we existed on universal scale we would see one thing, if we exist on planetary scale we see something different

and it will inform us if your world veiw is set in stone regaurdless of logical facts

so yes, there are frames of reference in which celestial bodies appear spherical

just as there are lenses on a camera that can warp light to appear distorted

so given what we witness is that planets are spherical why is it "logical" to assume this one isnt?

all planets are planes

from the frame of reference of the planet

all planets are spherical from the frame of reference of a universal sized observer

all reality is planar from the frame of reference of God

so answer the question = can you be shown the earth isnt flat? or is there no amount of evidence you could be show or arguments presented to change your mind?

its a yes or no

I believe I already answered your question - shown implies observation - there are frames of reference where an observer would observe spherical curve

so yes

but is observation reality

ok so would you be willing to reveiw the evidence or ?

i think you're confusing "shown" with "is"