I am saying that in a globe earth the curvature is hidden by atmospheric refraction

and so you have to significantly increase the range of your observation to actually see objects disappear below the horizon

and spacetime curvature is undeniably real which proves that space is real

because if you look around the sun during a solar eclipse you can see that the apparent position of the stars has changed in exact accordance to general relativity

and if you look at stars with exoplanets you can see them wobble and that wobble is caused by the gravity of those exoplanets effecting the parent star

and in case you want to that those exoplanets are not real and those stars are just wobbling for whatever reason sometimes you can see them eclipse around those stars which is detectable by observing how those stars dim when they obscure some of our view of those stars

u want a ban?

who

Nio obvs

yeah the more time I spend here the more increasingly hard I find it to believe that these people actually believe in this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-N0TloYHr8

not only that but with the proximity that flat earthers tell us that the moon has to us when we view the moon when it is close to the horizon it would have to either A. appear elliptical to us (thats if the moon was flat) or B. we would see new features of the moon (if the moon were spherical)

dont judge the thing youre stood on by the light bulb on the ceiling eh

Science has proven time an again a flat motionless eart

unfortunately I cant according to flat earth the moon is a totally impossible object.

your moon distance only exists because of an added assumption, so youre the ones with egg on your faces!

Bolt no trolling

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explain moon distance please!?

but if your saying the moon were any further out then it would be visible across the entire earth

im asking you the maths please

how is it determined to be almost 400,000km

well you could probably use tides to confirm its mass

tides are not proof, an also not caused by the moon.

which would in turn allow you to confirm its orbit

i am asking you the maths involved, do you know?

then why are tides and the moon directly proportional

answer please

it depends on what kind of things your just going to blatantly tell me arent true

Con, nope

answer

because you do not detremine the thing youre stood on by the thing on the ceiling, ergo measure what youre stood on, its flat, thanks

So you dont know then

there are lots of different equations to determine the distance from the moon

youve no clue?

why dont you know

why do you assert something as fact when you dont know

you will be banned soon if you carry on

so what are you trying to get at <@!647835351225729027> this is just turning into banter