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Area 51 is a experimental aircraft facility @tpofba maybe you should organize another raid to go find out

@Citizen Z The balloon doesn’t rise due to density alone, although that DOES have an effect. Gravity pulls the heaviest mass down, and air is heavier than helium. The balloon’s mass is heavier than air, but the helium suspends it. As the air is pulled down more than the helium, pressure will make the helium rise. Without gravity, balloons wouldn’t float. In a vacuum chamber, the balloon won’t float as it doesn’t have any heavier mass outside of it pushing it up as the mass seeks the lowest possible ground. This is also why water rises in a bath when you enter it, instead of you just floating on top of the water. This phenomenon is called buoyancy.

Evidently, you *can* have buoyancy in space or 0-G, but you need some kind of compressive force acting in the same way gravity would to force the interaction of the two entities. @Oceanic

Mhm. Some kind of force acting upon it.

Generally, the only way that would work is via some kind of artificial method.

Well, think of a piston, in a sense.

Or anything that acts in the same relative acceleration

Thanks for clarifying for others, I forgot to put that in.

No problem. It is more often than not a common thing overlooked

That buoyancy itself isn't only because of density or gravity, but also because of the chemical inter-molecular forces being incompatible for immiscible fluids.

Or even a solid and an incompatible fluid

That itself stems from the interaction of the molecules in such a capacity.

Though Pressure Gradients and their respective normal forces do have a hand

We are just looking at another level of the same question

As long as something is being forced, for lack of better word, harder than something else, and that mass is malleable, the other mass will be affected by buoyancy.

Essentially, I was just explaining a bit further why the Pressure Gradient acts in the way it does <@!680610519224287297>

@Oceanic exactly. The density of the medium changing is the direct cause for the helium to rise or fall.

And it is still enacted upon my a compressive, and consistent, force.

Yep.

As it must be, otherwise it really doesn't work.

No. Just changing the density. Thats what we can prove

Well, what keeps a brick in contact with a steel plate?

Different densities should mean that one is not forced into the other, and can freely roam around.

Density of the two

So...you're arguing Relative Density?

They r solids

They are. And even if we have a fluid on-top of the steel plate, it is still compressed into it.

Which doesn't concur with this theory of it only being density.

Yeah and

As under that postulate, most matter would be ejected off the surface of the earth.

Citizen, do you think a balloon would still float without gravity?

Its what we can prove. Feel free to prove warped space time

Ill be waiting. Nite

We can pretty easily prove gravity. It just depends if you want to accept it or not.

As for warped space time, I'd answer with the relativistic motion of high-velocity matter.

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We actually have pretty solid equations for that.