The bell curve is absolute cringe. Charles Murray doesn't even understand the concept of heritability.

If you're interested in this stuff you should find a text book or a class on evolutionary bio first so you don't end up like him.

@Royal Chaotic Are we done?

@Iron I'll be back in like 10 mins sorry the meeting run late and im hungry

You began a diffetent debate.

Im still with you aswell

Im about to crash. I'll pick it up in the morning.

@Royal Chaotic Yes I'd be willing to watch a video. Actually this article summarizes the information much better: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/maoa-race-and-crime/, sorry about that

@Spider Sutra proof?

And don't insult me

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Charles Murray has in the past defined heritability along the lines of "the extent to which genetics determine a trait" Do you disargee with this? I can try and dig up a quote from the bell curve or an interview if you think I'm misrepresenting his position @The Desert Fox VI

what do you think heritability means?

@Iron I mean if its not inherent that death is necceasry for communism then I would say it wouldn't be inherent that death to communism as I would with nazism since that bigotry is core to nazism.
I would also dissagree with the comparison, theirs a difference of condeming someone for something they are doing and something they are. Going after someone soley because their jewish is bad because the jews haven't done anything wrong or that hurts anyone. Going after a landlord because they are a landlord is something that landlord can stop and the existance of the institution of landlording harms people.

They went after the jew because they were successful, they had wealth, property and business. The others had land, property. They had resources.

The racial purity came after, every trope and pogrom you can apply to jewish stereotypes you can apply to landlords. They did the same thing, designate a group as other, kill, take their stuff.

Parasites, unworthy, stealing from you, class/racial enemies.

While I dont know for certain I doubt that all jews were wealthy had property or buisness

I would even bet the majority didn't since wealth isn't a common thing

Also alot wealthy people existed and they werent jewish and they werent gone after, meaning that they didn't go after the wealth, it was their jewishness

And thiers no evidence to show that Jewish people are intrinsically, landlords intrinsically are

@Iron

Yes?

Was the ping to conclude?

@Spider Sutra I disagree with that definition of heritability. But that doesn't change the fact that IQ is significantly hereditary.

heritability and hereditary are two different things though

I know

Those are two seperate points

so would you agree that the heritability of IQ doesn't really matter to the race realism argument?

@Spider Sutra what exactly is your definition of heritability?

heritability describes the degree to which the variation in a trait for a particular population can be attributed, explained, or predicted by genetics

what do you think heritability is?

That more or less is what I thought it was. In that case, heritability does matter to race realism because the degree to which IQ is influenced by genetics as opposed to environmental factors is important. @Spider Sutra

uh well no the word opposed doesn't quite work there

because heritability itself depends on a particular population, and with it a particular environment

If I take a population, and move it to a new location, the heritability of the trait can change

and even a trait which is 100% heritable, can be changed if the environment is changed

Well I meant more like on an individual level. But yes you're correct.

Point is: a certain percentage of IQ is hereditary and a certain percentage is based upon that individual's experience in life.

So do certain people have a cap on their IQ that can never be surpassed? Because heritability has nothing to do with this.