Message from @Deleted User
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no
Depends how you define national security
The safety of a nation ofc.
won't be any national security when you abolish the concept of a nation
Threats of domestic terrorism, crimes etc.
I think in some cases yes obviously like a war
Normal life no they don’t
And why not?
Its to assure other citizens safety, in their defence.
Literally just ban all migration and the problem is solved
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True
Because it really depends on the size or scale of the threat
Like if the nation state is Poland being invaded by Germany they’re going to have to crack some eggs to survive
No
Which means moving people around, forcing people into the army and shutting down enemy propaganda
It will lead to tyranny
And invasion of privacy
As it already does
I mean it’s tyranny or being annexed and depopulated by Germany
We're talking about today
Yes I know of the Patriot act
And I’m against it, however I still maintain that in some situations you are going to have to break some things to survive
Yeah but we aren't in those situations, are we?
Yes you’re correct
So right now we shouldn’t be doing any of the actions I mentioned
When the time comes we can do it
But it hasn't came and won't for a long time
I agree, I simply state we should be honest with ourselves when it comes to that
No
Ye @snake
Agreed
@Deleted User Yes, but depends.
If the person posed a threat to the nation or society per say.
Or they were looking for signs of that
In any person
No.
Depends on the citizen
You're all cucks lul
Like, I feel like a person who has a criminal record for example, or is a felon - has revoked some of his rights by infringing on someone else's rights